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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Heilsreligion

English translation:

salvation-based religion / salvation religion

Added to glossary by silvia glatzhofer
Mar 25, 2010 09:08
14 yrs ago
German term

Heilsreligion

German to English Other Religion
Description of a Roman settlement. Local gods in subjugated regions were integrated into the Roman system of Gods

So wurden die aus dem Orient stammenden jenseitsbezogenen Heilsreligionen, wie der Kult des Bacchus/Dionysos oder des Mithras integriert, nicht aber das Christentum.
Proposed translations (English)
2 +5 salvation-based religion / salvation religion
4 +2 redemptive religion
References
salvation cult

Discussion

Rolf Buesken (X) Mar 26, 2010:
It should be noted that the Roman Empire eventually adopted Christianity.
Rebecca Garber Mar 25, 2010:
Christianity was banned in the Roman Empire Rome was very polyglot and accretive in its religions and religious practices. They absorbed from everyone. However, because Christianity denied the divinity of the emperor, the religion and its teachings were banned. Which is whyother salvational/redemptive religions were accepted/accreted, but not Christianity. It's a political move; it doesn't mean that Christianity is less salvational/redemptive than others.
Jonathan MacKerron Mar 25, 2010:
Christianity is of course a salvationist religion but it sounds like your text is dealing with pre-Christian times, when the concept of salvation already existed, even before it was tied to Christianity. They integrated the concept of salvation as it was conceived in Asia, but not that of Christianity.

Proposed translations

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salvation-based religion / salvation religion

is at least the idea, though am not sure as how to best express it

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Note added at 16 mins (2010-03-25 09:24:35 GMT)
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the idea being that sinners are able to 'redeem' themselves by strictly adhering to a religion's tenets

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Note added at 29 mins (2010-03-25 09:37:20 GMT)
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or perhaps "promises of an afterlife"

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Note added at 35 mins (2010-03-25 09:43:38 GMT)
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They are comparing and contrasting two different notions of salvation, i.e. the pre-Christian one with that of Christianity.
Note from asker:
Thank you, but why would Christentum then not be included? It promises salvation after all (at least to "good" people), or am I mistaken here?
Peer comment(s):
agree Anne Schulz : or 'salvation cult'
28 mins
thx, might fit nicely here
agree Reinhold Wehrmann
46 mins
agree Jumplanguage
1 hr
agree Rebecca Garber
2 hrs
agree Rolf Keiser
2 hrs
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1 hr

redemptive religion

since Mahayana Buddhism took the form of a redemptive religion (Heilsreligion) born from the needs of the populace, it came to worship Shakyamuni...

Probably more general than "salvation," which may be more strictly a Christian word.

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-03-25 10:50:54 GMT)
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Also, fwiw, Christianity is a combination of a redemptive religion and a moral religion.
Reference:

http://books.google.hu/books?id=_DOku4pM5wYC&pg=PA128&lpg=PA128&dq=heilsreligion&source=bl&ots=2ykzQHeWnh&sig=dMZpTRfSqhbZgOK26Y9CNr2A73U&hl

Peer comment(s):
agree Rebecca Garber
1 hr
agree SMueller
14 hrs
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Reference comments

40 mins
Reference:

salvation cult

In the ref below, Christ, Mithras and Dionysus are specified as "saviour godmen" in what is called "salvation cults".

NB: The opposition is probably "die aus dem Orient stammenden Heilsreligionen, nicht aber die Heilsreligion Christentum".
Reference:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gakuseidon/God_Who_Wasnt_There_analysis_update.htm

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