Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Kulturhistoriker

English translation:

cultural historian/historian of civilization

Added to glossary by Jonathan MacKerron
Jul 13, 2007 08:48
17 yrs ago
German term

Kulturhistoriker

German to English Social Sciences Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
nice work if you can get it. Henry Thomas Buckle is being referred to here - thanks in advance for your suggestions
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): Steven Sidore

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Discussion

Jonathan MacKerron (asker) Jul 13, 2007:
in a brochure containing a saying from Bro Buckle "Henry Thomas Buckle, Kulturhistoriker"
Francis Lee (X) Jul 13, 2007:
Context? Where does the term crop up?
Jonathan MacKerron (asker) Jul 13, 2007:
"historian of civilization" also gets lots of googles, many in association with good old Buckle

Proposed translations

+9
5 mins
Selected

cultural historian

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Peer comment(s):

agree Damian Harrison (X) : I´m with Erika on this one. Definitely a cultural historian
3 mins
thank you, Damian
agree BrigitteHilgner : That was my spontaneous idea, too - and I read a lot about the subject.
5 mins
thank you, Brigitte
agree Armorel Young
23 mins
thank you, Armorel
agree Nicole Tata : yup
25 mins
thank you, Nicole
agree Marcelo Silveyra
57 mins
thank you, Marcelo
agree Alison Jenner
1 hr
thank you, Alison
agree Steven Sidore : With the caveat that the 'cultural' may not be necessary (see Francis's post), this is certainly a proper translation.
2 hrs
thank you, Steven
agree Rebecca Garber : cultural is necessary to disinguish from historians of other stripes: military, art, political, literary, etc.
6 hrs
thank you, Rebecca
agree KARIN ISBELL
6 hrs
thank you, Karin
neutral Francis Lee (X) : Perhaps you could tell us why "cultural historian" deserves CL4 when English-language sites call Buckle simply a "historian"?/ What's your reasoning? Obviously "cultural historian" will have occurred to the Asker. Why post meaningless links ?
6 hrs
neutral Lancashireman : Potentially confusing for English readers. Could be taken to refer to the quality of his work or his methodology. I presume that was why the asker posted the question after getting the same Google skim as you have posted above.
7 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks"
6 mins

scientific historian

Peer comment(s):

neutral Lancashireman : Does 'scientific' refer to his method/approach or his field of research, Henry? It's a similar situation with a cultural/cultured historian as opposed to a barbarian/barbaric historian.
9 hrs
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+3
6 mins

(cultural) historian

Or simply "historian" - German tends to be more precise in this kind of context.

http://sophie.byu.edu/resources/index.php?p=docs/glossed.htm

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-13 10:10:59 GMT)
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As I suspected, he is generally referred to simply as a "historian":

Henry Thomas Buckle (November 24, 1821 - May 29, 1862) was an English historian, author of a History of Civilization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Thomas_Buckle

Google:
"cultural historian Henry thomas buckle" = zero hits
"historian Henry thomas buckle" = approx. 100 hits

See my point about German being more specific?
Note from asker:
indeed I do, but you're preaching to the choir here
Peer comment(s):

agree Steven Sidore : Without more context I can't tell whether the 'cultural' is needed for this specific example or not, but I agree in principal that you can often leave this out in the English version
2 hrs
If sources on the Web generally refer to him as simply a "historian", I see no need at all to digress from that.
agree Lancashireman : 6mins as opp 5mins but 'more helpful' in content and presentation IMO.
6 hrs
Astonishing how so many colleagues fail to appreciate the difference in culture (oh, the irony) as reflected in language - which our profession is supposed to reflect. Also nice to see you prefer beef Wellington to bangers n mash. Dig in!
agree Susan Zimmer
10 hrs
'preciate it!
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