Gymnasium vs. Realschule
English translation: grammar school; comprehensive (British English)
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| 11:05 Jan 29, 2003 |
| German to English translations [PRO] Bus/Financial / Curriculum Vitae; German Educational System | |||||||
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|  Selected response from: Mary Worby United Kingdom Local time: 20:04 | ||||||
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grammar school vs regular secondary school Explanation: I know it's not 100% either but then... Grammar school is, I think, the closest thing because it has the (historical) Latin aspect in it. Perhaps you could say "intermediate secondary school" for Realschule since the "Hauptschule" used to be the "regular" continuation of the Grundschhule. Oh my, notoriously difficult :-) |
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Gymnasium: grammar school (according to Heymanns) Explanation: Realschule (comprehensive secondary school with possible university preparatory level) -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 11:32:02 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- in the US we used to differentiate between vocational and college prep curricula in high schools - this about as close as we can get to explaining the German system, i.e. secondary school leaving certificates that allow college, and those that don\'t -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 11:35:27 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Rowan, no matter which translation you choose, I\'d leave the German original and put the translation in brackets -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 11:42:47 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- To further complicate things, the Handbuch der Int. Rechts- und Verwaltungssprache\" defines Realschule as follows: \"generally for pupils aged 10 to 16, in Berlin 12 to 16, after completion of the Grundschule, involving altogether ten years attendence at school; leaving certificate give entry to Fachoberschule or to an employment with training; formerly Mittelschule with leaving certificate known as Mittlere Reife\" So now if we\'re not totally confused.... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 15:56:56 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Comment on Mary\'s contribution: In the US, grammar school mostly signifies elementary school (according to Webster), while secondary school signifies high school, ergo Gymnasium. But of course I know the systems are quite different in the UK, NZ etc. |
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26 mins confidence: peer agreement (net): +8
peer agreement (net): +8Explanation Explanation: The difference is primarily one of aptitude. There are three different schools at the secondary level, Hauptschule, Realschule and Gymnasium. The Gymnasium almost invariably has an Oberstufe (sixth-form), Realschule sometimes does and Hauptschule almost invariable doesn't. In 'Facts about Germany', they are translated as 'elementary', 'secondary' and 'grammar' respectively. Essentially, the most gifted children go to the Gymnasium, and the least academically gifted to the Hauptschule, where the emphasis is more on vocational training. I have a diagram that explains this which I can e-mail if you send me your adddress! HTH Mary -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 11:43:22 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Both Realschule and Gymnasium would start at about age 10, so if he went from Gymnasium to Realschule, he must have gone downhill. Essentially the top stream from 10-14 then down a stream for 14-17 (unless he did Oberstufe at Realschule, which is fairly unusual!) ... -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 2003-01-29 12:09:40 (GMT) -------------------------------------------------- The Fachoberschulreife would sound reasonable as a qualification. This would entitle your chappie to enter, you guessed it, Fachoberschule! Defined as a \'college specialising in particular subjects\'. This is lower-level than the Hochschulreife, which is a certificate of general aptitude to enter higher education ... Confused? You should be ... |
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