Glossary entry (derived from question below)
May 24, 2003 12:31
21 yrs ago
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German term
Mitläufer
German to English
Marketing
Marketing
Market research. Definition:
Die Mitläufer haben den Drang, überall dabei zu sein, um nicht zu den „Rückständigen“ zu zählen. Stil wird nicht um seiner selbst Willen praktiziert, sondern eher um zu zeigen, daß man „jemand ist“. Einkommen und Bildung sind eher unterdurchschnittlich, und so tut man viel, um „dazuzugehören“.
Thanks again for your ideas, Endre
Die Mitläufer haben den Drang, überall dabei zu sein, um nicht zu den „Rückständigen“ zu zählen. Stil wird nicht um seiner selbst Willen praktiziert, sondern eher um zu zeigen, daß man „jemand ist“. Einkommen und Bildung sind eher unterdurchschnittlich, und so tut man viel, um „dazuzugehören“.
Thanks again for your ideas, Endre
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +8 | hanger-on | Cilian O'Tuama |
4 +3 | followers ... | TonyTK |
3 +3 | Hangers on? | Barbara Cashin (X) |
4 +2 | trend seekers | Roddy Stegemann |
3 +2 | bandwaggoners | Edith Kelly |
4 +1 | status seekers | William Stein |
5 | pack-runners | Maureen Holm, J.D., LL.M. |
4 | "in-crowd wannabes" | writeaway |
4 | in this context | gangels (X) |
4 | gamma | Robert Schlarb |
3 | camp followers | Kim Metzger |
3 | those who go along with the crowd | Nancy Arrowsmith |
3 | fellow travellers | Narasimhan Raghavan |
3 | lemmings | jerrie |
Change log
Mar 27, 2013 11:37: Steffen Walter changed "Field (specific)" from "(none)" to "Marketing"
Proposed translations
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hanger-on
maybe even 'sheep'
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "This time I'm really spoilt for choice, thanks to all for your excellent suggestions."
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bandwaggoners
just a thought
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... Our reply, go away = bandwaggoners WEAR YOUR COLOURS WITH PRIDE Dez S Urban =3D=3D
Designer =3D=3D -----_NextPart_000_017E_01C1B2E6.8BCBDC60 Content-Type ...
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... Our reply, go away = bandwaggoners WEAR YOUR COLOURS WITH PRIDE Dez S Urban =3D=3D
Designer =3D=3D -----_NextPart_000_017E_01C1B2E6.8BCBDC60 Content-Type ...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Mario Marcolin
23 mins
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Thanks Mario
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Robert Schlarb
: In fact, the term "band wagon effect" from social psychology is rendered as "Mitläufer-Effekt" in German; whether or not "bandwaggoners" brings this to mind is, moreover, a moot question
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Thanks Robert.
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"in-crowd wannabes"
just a suggestion.
.littered with footnotes. At least half the names on the list belonged to former in-crowders and in-crowd wannabes. I'd have little ...
www.i-cynic.com/weekly_24.asp - 22k
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(ps-knock my confidence level back to half. is really just a suggestion).
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.. Join the shindig downtown Alive After Five is a weekly party for the crowd that hangs out downtown (and for wannabes who want to be part of that in-crowd). ...
www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/nightlife/ -
.. Felt is a darling with the in-crowd. Named after that soft, fuzzy fabric, the sleek bar/restaurant is always packed with fashionistas and Gucci-clad wannabes. ...
www.passportmagazine.net/07/losangeles.html - 22k
.. in the best to-be-seen zones, some clad in designer gear and the many wannabes in the latest fashion trends, hoping to be spotted as part of the in-crowd. ...
www.propertyzoom.com/pz/neighbourhood/ bangsar/bangsar.htm - 10k
.littered with footnotes. At least half the names on the list belonged to former in-crowders and in-crowd wannabes. I'd have little ...
www.i-cynic.com/weekly_24.asp - 22k
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(ps-knock my confidence level back to half. is really just a suggestion).
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.. Join the shindig downtown Alive After Five is a weekly party for the crowd that hangs out downtown (and for wannabes who want to be part of that in-crowd). ...
www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/nightlife/ -
.. Felt is a darling with the in-crowd. Named after that soft, fuzzy fabric, the sleek bar/restaurant is always packed with fashionistas and Gucci-clad wannabes. ...
www.passportmagazine.net/07/losangeles.html - 22k
.. in the best to-be-seen zones, some clad in designer gear and the many wannabes in the latest fashion trends, hoping to be spotted as part of the in-crowd. ...
www.propertyzoom.com/pz/neighbourhood/ bangsar/bangsar.htm - 10k
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followers ...
... as opposed to "leaders" (early adopters) at the one end and "laggards" at the other.
Ref: The Kinks: "... he's a dedicated follower of fashion ..."
Ref: The Kinks: "... he's a dedicated follower of fashion ..."
Peer comment(s):
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Steffen Walter
: the one immediately springing to mind
1 hr
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agree |
Nicole Tata
: yes, standard terminology for market segmentation: innovators/leaders, early adopters, followers, late adopters, laggards
5 hrs
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agree |
Ellen Zittinger
: the masses
13 hrs
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Hangers on?
guess
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Gisela Greenlee
: already agreed above, but correct plural is hanger-ons
1 hr
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agree |
Roddy Stegemann
: According to Webster's New World Dictionary the plural of hanger-on is hangers-on. Of course, Webster is only one authoritative opinion.
2 hrs
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agree |
Armorel Young
: yes, the plural is hangers-on - the people are the hangers, not the ons, so it is that word which takes the -s
2 hrs
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1 hr
trend seekers
There are those who set trends (trendsetters), and those who seek them out, so as to be a part of the in-crowd. They are of course followers, but not the kind that lag behind the masses; rather that stay ahead in their mindless crusade to be better than most everyone else -- the abhorrence of mediocrity becomes mediocrity itself.
It would seem the word should be composed as one, but my dictionary does not confirm my conjecture.
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I have also heard the expression trend seeker in reference to those who research trends. In the context given, however, there is little room for ambiguity.
It would seem the word should be composed as one, but my dictionary does not confirm my conjecture.
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I have also heard the expression trend seeker in reference to those who research trends. In the context given, however, there is little room for ambiguity.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Ellen Zittinger
30 mins
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Thanks. By the way, does "MA." stand for Massachusetts or Master of Arts?
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Mario Marcolin
3 hrs
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1 hr
camp followers
Concise Oxford, camp follower - a person who associates with a group without being a full member of it.
It's also defined as a person who is not member of an ingroup.
Camp followers have the urge to be where the action is so as not to be considered out of touch.
To be active physically or mentally is part of every person’s make-up - it is up to each to use and develop their characteristics in accordance with their wishes or ability. Personally I am built for comfort rather than speed!
There are three types of "active" - reactive, active and pro-active - on which comment will be made.
"Reactive" is conservative, initiated when a response to a development is required. Reactive is not a pace setter but rather of the "camp follower" nature.
http://www.nacma.asn.au/news/issue1_4.htm
It's also defined as a person who is not member of an ingroup.
Camp followers have the urge to be where the action is so as not to be considered out of touch.
To be active physically or mentally is part of every person’s make-up - it is up to each to use and develop their characteristics in accordance with their wishes or ability. Personally I am built for comfort rather than speed!
There are three types of "active" - reactive, active and pro-active - on which comment will be made.
"Reactive" is conservative, initiated when a response to a development is required. Reactive is not a pace setter but rather of the "camp follower" nature.
http://www.nacma.asn.au/news/issue1_4.htm
Reference:
2 hrs
those who go along with the crowd
another way of phrasing it...
3 hrs
fellow travellers
This term was much in vogue to denote persons who subscribed to communist thoughts without actually being a communist. This was the thing to do especially in the sixties and seventies in countries advocating socialism such as India, my country. It was a question of doing the in-thing.
3 hrs
lemmings
Just sprang to mind.
For a read about sheep, followers of fashion and lemmings (?!)....this link has them all (although not in context of question - it's just funny!)
For a read about sheep, followers of fashion and lemmings (?!)....this link has them all (although not in context of question - it's just funny!)
Reference:
4 hrs
in this context
I'd call them 'opportunists'
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6 hrs
status seekers
Normally, I'd translate Mitlaufer as "conformist", but in this context "status seeker" is more appropriate because of the desire to appear wealthy:
Couple all this with the fact that fashions change, so the status seekers must re-stock, and causes, political alliances and even societal 'right & wrong' standards change, and you have to replace your clothing long before it wears out.
http://www.backwash.com/previewnewsarchive.php?newsid=305
Couple all this with the fact that fashions change, so the status seekers must re-stock, and causes, political alliances and even societal 'right & wrong' standards change, and you have to replace your clothing long before it wears out.
http://www.backwash.com/previewnewsarchive.php?newsid=305
Peer comment(s):
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Fantutti (X)
: I couldn't agree more, William. That's exactly what the German text depicts: a status seeker, and n o t a "Mitläufer" or a "conformist".
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6 hrs
gamma
With acknowledgement to Aldous Huxley. In fact the term has made inroads into contemporary organizational sociology and describes quite succintly the order of society described in the above text without getting polemical or politically uncorrect (proletariat!).
3 days 17 hrs
pack-runners
or simply the "would-be cool."
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