Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

sanguinamenti a nappo

English translation:

oozing

Added to glossary by liz askew
May 15, 2011 07:33
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Italian term

sanguinamenti a nappo

Italian to English Medical Medical (general) surgery
This is from a paper describing surgical procedures (haemostasis).

"Gli emostatici topici possono essere di diversa natura:
animale e vegetale; sono in grado di bloccare i sanguinamenti a nappo, attivando il processo coagulativo attraverso un’azione chimica e/o meccanica."
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Change log

May 19, 2011 16:31: liz askew changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/33051">achisholm's</a> old entry - "sanguinamenti a nappo"" to ""oozing""

Discussion

liz askew May 16, 2011:
and ARS54, I do believe that Alexander has a good knowledge of medical terminology, both in Italian and English, so he will make up his own mind based on the research provided in the contributions.
liz askew May 16, 2011:
The idea is not to have a sterile discussion, but to provide as much research as possible in order to find the correct answer for the context. We all bring something to each discussion.
ARS54 May 16, 2011:
...Liz, io non ho affatto detto che la classificazione di Forrest "è sbagliata in inglese" (forse, hai interpretato male l'italiano).
Mi sembra inoltre che proprio i tuoi ultimi link e riferimenti nulla abbiano a che fare con 'oozing', anzi. Io ho già postato ciò che dovevo, e davvero non ho altro tempo da dedicare alle solite, chilometriche discussioni, piuttosto sterili IMO, che si innescano ormai regolarmente, senza realmente aggiungere nulla di fruttuoso a quanto si è già detto (fermo restando che ognuno è libero - in buona fede - di mantenere le proprie posizioni e/o di operare le proprie scelte). Perciò, buon lavoro a tutti e buona serata.
liz askew May 16, 2011:
Apologies for the onslaught, but this is very important.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:CK1gG1O...


La sezione accidentale di un vaso non ha certamente nulla a che vedere con un sanguinamento diffuso, senza una precisa origine. La condotta da tenere è radicalmente opposta. Nel caso della recisione di un vaso, sarà sufficiente l'emostasi chirurgica, mentre per un sanguinamento a nappo può essere necessario un trattamento con farmaci o trasfusionale. Cote et coll. [1] hanno tentato una definizione di tale tipo disanguinamento a nappo: sanguinamento diffuso, microvascolare, che non risponde alla compressione, all'elettrocoagulazione, al bendaggio compressivo, in assenza di fattori favorenti, come l'acidosi, l'ipovolemia o l'ipossia.
1.
Anesthesia Written Board Exam Practice Questions and Study Materials
Microvascular bleeding (abnormal oozing and continued bleeding from raw and cut surfaces) may result. Six to eight platelet concentrates are usually enough ...
www.medtext.net/Samples/akey06.html - Cached - Similar
2. [PDF]
A GUIDELI
liz askew May 16, 2011:
here too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Forrest classification


Endoscopy image of a duodenal ulcer in the posterior part of the duodenal bulbwithout stigmata of recent hemorrhage. This would be a Forrest III lesion
Acute hemorrhage
 Forrest I a (Spurting hemorrhage)
 Forrest I b (Oozing hemorrhage)
Signs of recent hemorrhage
 Forrest II a (Visible vessel)
 Forrest II b (Adherent clot)
 Forrest II c (Hematin on ulcer base)
Lesions without active bleeding
 Forrest III (Lesions without signs of recent hemorrhage)[2

Trattato di medicina interna - Google Books Result
Gaetano Crepaldi, Aldo Baritussio - 2002 - Medical - 5000 pages
CLASSIFICAZIONE ENDOSCOPICA DELLE EMORRAGIE DIGESTIVE SECONDO FORREST(MODIFICATA) Forrest 1 Sanguinamento in atto 1a: a getto o zampillo 1b: a nappo ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=8829916420

liz askew May 16, 2011:
so, ARS54, are you saying the Forrest classification is incorrect in English?

Emergenze Emorragiche - Gastroenterologia ed Endoscopia Digestiva ...
- [ Translate this page ]
AZIENDA U.S.L. n° 1 di MASSA e CARRARA. OSPEDALE di MASSA .... sanguinamento di tipo spurting (Forrest Ia) da quello di tipo oozing (Forrest Ib) e ciò .... patologie che determinano una emorragia a nappo su superfici più o meno ampie, ...
web.tiscalinet.it/Endoscopia/Emergenze%20emorragiche.htm - Cached - Simila

[PDF]
Is There a Subgroup of Patients With Forrest Ib (Oozing) Peptic ...
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Infirmary, Glasgow, UK; 3AstraZeneca R&D, MÖlndal, Sweden;. 4Division ofGastroenterology, McGill University Health Center, ... 1. Determine whether there is a subgroup of oozers (Forrest 1b) with increased risk of rebleeding. ...
socalgastro.org/special_events/downloads/2009.../Jensen-Controversies.pd
ARS54 May 16, 2011:
...Sì, un "buon lavoro": che non tiene affatto conto però di *tutto* il resto del lavoro che dimostra (anche con immagini) che 'oozing' e "sanguinamento a nappo" sono due cose diverse (anche se non diversissime), al di là della classificazione di Forrest e di come è stata tradotta in italiano. Ripeto (e lo conferma persino la def 'native' del The Free Dictionary) che l' 'oozing' è un lento stillicidio di sangue goccia a goccia, mentre il "sanguinamento a nappo" è "...un'emorragia puntiforme che origina dal microcircolo (capillari), e generalmente interessa in modo puntiforme tutta la superficie della ferita..." - www.anestit.unipa.it. Cfr. inoltre le altre refs apportate e il Dizionario Medico USES al riguardo.


achisholm (asker) May 16, 2011:
Good work. ..
liz askew May 16, 2011:
And here are the equivalent Italian references for "a nappo = oozing".http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&xhr=t&q=Forrest 1b sanguiname...
liz askew May 16, 2011:
I am unable to post this to ARS54 with my "disagree". so here is why:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Forrest 1b oozing&hl=en&biw...
liz askew May 16, 2011:
I am unable to post this to ARS54 with my "disagree". so here is why:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Forrest 1b oozing&hl=en&biw...

Proposed translations

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Selected

oozing

from the references quoted

Trattato di medicina interna - Google Books Result
Gaetano Crepaldi, Aldo Baritussio - 2002 - Medical - 5000 pages
Il sanguinamento nella maggior parte dei casi è di origine capillare, a nappo ("oozing"): più raramente deriva dall'erosione di un'arteria e si manifesta ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=8829916420...

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punctate - definition of punctate in the Medical dictionary - by ...
punctate /punc·tate/ (punk´tāt) spotted; marked with points or punctures. punc·tate (p ngk t t ). adj. Having tiny spots, points, or depressions. punctate ...
medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/punctate - Cached - Similar

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punctate does not have the same meaning

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[PDF]
Emorragie I tagli e le ferite con fuoriuscita di sangue dai vasi ...
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4. nel caso di emorragia a nappo, originata dai capillari, sarà sufficiente la pressione diretta con tamponi per fermare la emorragia. ...
www.farmaciadellanave.it/trattamento_emorragie.pdf - Simila
1.
The First Aid Method For External Bleeding
This type of bleeding occurs when blood oozes from capillaries. ... If necessary, you can have the victims apply direct pressure to the wound themselves. ...
www.essortment.com/first-aid-method-external-bleeding-37822... - Cached

2. Control Bleeding - How to Stop Bleeding
29 Oct 2008 ... Direct Pressure. How to Control Bleeding ... Put pressure directly on the wound. ... Previous. Direct Pressure; Elevate Above the Heart • Use Pressure Points • When Should You Apply a Tourniquet? ...
firstaid.about.com/od/bleedingcontrol/ss/bleedingsteps.htm - Cached - Similar
3. Standard First Aid Course - Chapter Three - Bleeding
Capillary bleeding is slow, the blood "oozes" from the (wound) cut. ... Using your fingers or thumb, apply pressure (Fig. 3-2E) to the inside of the arm ...
www.brooksidepress.org/Products/.../DATA/.../chapter3.html - Cached - Similar
4. SWAT-Tourniquet
When hemorrhage is controlled or for venous and capillary oozing. ... The dressing can also be used to loosely apply pressure across the chest or abdomen. ...
www.swattourniquet.com/ - Cached - Similar


good luck!

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[PPT]
Sig. G.C. Maschio 47 a.
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CLASSIFICAZIONE DI FORREST. I Emorragia attiva. I a Emorragia arteriosa a getto. I bEmorragia arteriosa a nappo. II Emorragia pregressa. II a Vaso visibile ...
www.sismpa.it/.../lezioni/Ficano---Emorragie-Digestive-Supe... - Similar

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-4sKMin...

Forrest classification


Endoscopy image of a duodenal ulcer in the posterior part of the duodenal bulbwithout stigmata of recent hemorrhage. This would be a Forrest III lesion
Acute hemorrhage
 Forrest I a (Spurting hemorrhage)
 Forrest I b (Oozing hemorrhage)
Signs of recent hemorrhage
 Forrest II a (Visible vessel)
 Forrest II b (Adherent clot)
 Forrest II c (Hematin on ulcer base)
Lesions without active bleeding
 Forrest III (Lesions without signs of recent hemorrhage)[2


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Emergenze Emorragiche - Gastroenterologia ed Endoscopia Digestiva ... - [ Translate this page ]
AZIENDA U.S.L. n° 1 di MASSA e CARRARA. OSPEDALE di MASSA .... sanguinamento di tipo spurting (Forrest Ia) da quello di tipo oozing (Forrest Ib) e ciò .... patologie che determinano una emorragia a nappo su superfici più o meno ampie, ...
web.tiscalinet.it/Endoscopia/Emergenze%20emorragiche.htm - Cached - Similar
[PDF] 0688 LG Archimede_IV Bozza - [ Translate this page ]
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by C Romano - Related articles
Forrest 1b (F1b): Forrest 2a (F2a): Forrest 2b (F2b): Forrest 2c (F2c): Forrest 3 (F3): sanguinamento a getto o “spurting” sanguinamento a nappo o “oozing” ...
www.sigenp.org/new/files/publications/lineeguida/.../full_t... -

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Further reference:


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sN8pr9S...


• 3. In medicina, emorragia a nappo, emorragia profusa che si verifica in occasione di lesione traumatica di un organo parenchimatoso, spec. nelle ferite da taglio, e che si manifesta come unostillicidio continuo e uniforme su tutta la superficie sanguinante.


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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BpOzrER...

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I am disagreeing with ARS54

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Forrest 1b oozing&hl=en&biw...

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ANd

Trattato di medicina interna - Google Books Result
Gaetano Crepaldi, Aldo Baritussio - 2002 - Medical - 5000 pages
B) Emorragia "a nappo" dal bordo di un'ulcera pilorica (Forrest 1b). C) Ulcera della parete antrale anteriore con coagulo nero adeso alla parete e possibile ...
books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=8829916420

[PDF]
Scottish Medicines Consortium
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
9 Nov 2009 ... In patients with high-risk peptic ulcer bleeding, ... bleeding (Forrest class Ia),oozing (Forrest class Ib), non-bleeding ... Intravenous esomeprazole is the only proton pump inhibitor (PPI) that is licensed in the UK ...
www.scottishmedicines.org.uk/.../esomeprazole (Nexium) FINA...
Peer comment(s):

neutral ARS54 : ...no, Liz, l'oozing' è uno "stillicidio" (lento sanguinamento goccia a goccia), in italiano, NON un sanguinamento "a nappo" (leggi le ref in italiano!).
1 hr
see the Forrest classification
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Many thanks for the extensive work."
6 hrs

petechial bleeding/ hemorrhage

Could this help?

Don't know if the bleeding you refer to is subcutaneous or not.
Peer comment(s):

neutral ARS54 : ...non c'entra con il sanguinamento a nappo in chirurgia (cfr. refs in italiano): si tratta di petecchie sottocutanee...
22 mins
Thanks! I was referring to the sentence about the various topical haemostatic agents.
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punctate bleeding

Si tratta di sanguinamento che origina dai capillari ->

http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&newwindow=1&biw=1259&bih=8...

http://it.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2008061808510...

http://anestit.unipa.it/esiait/072004_02.htm

http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&newwindow=1&biw=1259&bih=8...







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...may cause increased capillary permeability, red blood cell extravasation and punctate bleeding. ...
www.gth2009.org/fileadmin/template/abstracts/PP6.7-6.pdf

Capillary bleeding and hematomata occur daily in practice, but not so frequently ... The punctate bleeding that can occur at insertion sites rarely poses a ...
books.google.it/books?isbn=1572507063...

...capillary flush or punctate bleeding in about 2 or 3...
www.aestheticlasers.us/our-blog/?Tag...

...thrombosed capillary loops. ... result in punctate bleeding points. Common warts are found most often on ...
www.books.google.it/books?isbn=0781760585...



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QUI, una spigazione dettagliata ->

http://www.google.it/search?hl=it&newwindow=1&biw=1259&bih=8...



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IMAGES:-

Sanguinamento a nappo (punctate bleeding)
http://www.bolandcell.co.za/images/needling_2008/needling2.j...

Stillicidio (oozing)
http://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://img.tfd.com/wn/B7/...



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C.s. ->

"a nappo"
http://www.skinblog-it.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Foto-7...



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"...L'ammalato può riferire di piccole ***perdite di sangue che originano da una superficie danneggiata (emorragia A NAPPO)***, di ***perdita lieve per gocciolamento (STILLICIDIO)***, di una grossa perdita... o ..." - Mazzeo, TRATTATO DI CLINICA E TERAPIA CHIRURGICA -
http://books.google.it/books?id=e7fhI5zRO1AC&pg=PA353&lpg=PA...

Peer comment(s):

agree Monia Di Martino
6 hrs
...mille grazie, Monia, buona serata!
agree daria fedele : baci kazaki.....
8 hrs
Baci-ba to you too, :-))
neutral liz askew : see Forrest classification
1 day 4 hrs
...solo 1 ghit on line, e una cattiva traduzione dall'inglese...
agree AeC2009
1 day 5 hrs
Thank you so much, :-))
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Reference comments

9 hrs
Reference:

finding

[PPT]
Sig. G.C. Maschio 47 a.
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UPPER GASTROINTESTINAL BLEEDING IMPACT of EARLY ENDOSCOPY on the OUTCOME ... F1a: Sanguinamento a getto (spurting); F1b: Sanguinamento a nappo(oozing) ...
www.sismpa.it/.../lezioni/Ficano---Emorragie-Digestive-Supe... - Similar
[PDF]
0688 LG Archimede_IV Bozza
- [ Translate this page ]
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by C Romano - Related articles
sanguinamento a getto o “spurting” sanguinamento a nappo o “oozing” vaso visibile non sanguinante o “non bleeding visible vessel”- NBVV ...
www.sigenp.org/new/files/...sanguinamento/full_text.pdf - Simila


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[PPT] VETSPON Absorbable Hemostatic Gelatin Sponges
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VETSPON helps insure positive surgical outcomes by providing an effective, quick and easy to use hemostasis product to stop oozing bleeding during surgical ...
www.vetspon.novartis.us/media/VETSPON.ppt - Simila

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[PDF] THROMBIN, TOPICAL U.S.P. THROMBIN-JMI®
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THROMBIN-JMI® is indicated as an aid to hemostasis whenever oozing blood and minor bleeding from capillaries and small venules is accessible. ...
www.kingpharm.com/.../product_document.cfm?brand... - Similar
[PDF] Spine Surgery with FLOSEAL Hemostatic Matrix
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
1. Can FLOSEAL Hemostatic Matrix be used on bony areas that will be fused? FLOSEAL is effective on all types of bleeding from oozing to spurting. ...
www.floseal.com/resources/pdfs/FLOSEAL_Spine_Tech_Guide.pdf - Similar

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Emergenze Emorragiche - Gastroenterologia ed Endoscopia Digestiva ... - [ Translate this page ]
AZIENDA U.S.L. n° 1 di MASSA e CARRARA. OSPEDALE di MASSA .... sanguinamento di tipo spurting (Forrest Ia) da quello di tipo oozing (Forrest Ib) e ciò .... patologie che determinano una emorragia a nappo su superfici più o meno ampie, ...
web.tiscalinet.it/Endoscopia/Emergenze%20emorragiche.htm - Cached - Similar
[PDF] 0688 LG Archimede_IV Bozza - [ Translate this page ]
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
by C Romano - Related articles
Forrest 1b (F1b): Forrest 2a (F2a): Forrest 2b (F2b): Forrest 2c (F2c): Forrest 3 (F3): sanguinamento a getto o “spurting” sanguinamento a nappo o “oozing” ...
www.sigenp.org/new/files/publications/lineeguida/.../full_t... -
Peer comments on this reference comment:

neutral ARS54 : "Le ferite da taglio spesso provocano un **sanguinamento diffuso** e **puntiforme** dei bordi, **detto a nappo**. Questo tipo di ferita, in particolare quella chirurgica ... " www.it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferita / ...cattiva trad dall'inglese, 1 solo ghit
1 hr
no, see the Forrest classification
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