Glossary entry

Portuguese term or phrase:

trocar ideais

English translation:

to chew the fat (colloquial), to talk

Sep 16, 2003 00:40
20 yrs ago
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Portuguese term

trocar ideias

Non-PRO Portuguese to English Other
I have come across this phrase a lot in Brazil, and I would like to find a good way to translate it. I have considered: ´´to chat´´ but I don´t think this carries the same meaning as the original. ´´to exchange ideas´´ sounds strange in English. Has anyone got any good ideas about a good English equivalent for this phrase?

Proposed translations

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4 hrs
Selected

converse..talk..chew the fat..

Idiomsite.com - Origins Of Common Sayings
Chew the Fat This idiom means to talk about unimportant things. Eskimos
used to chew on pieces of whale blubber as if it were chewing gum. ...
www.idiomsite.com/chewthefat.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Daniel Marcus : Pronto. This is much more natural.
16 hrs
agradeço
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Excellent. Thanks. Chewing the fat is a great phrase, and I think the perfect phrase in English to sum up the real essence of ^trocar ideias^. To talk, is also good, as it seem to cover the meaning more than to chat. Interesting to hear about the origin of the phrase also. It is very common in colloquial use in Scotland, and I am not sure if other English speakers use it a lot, but they should! Thanks for everyone^s ideas, i^m off to chew the fat with some friends."
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3 mins

exchange of ideas

Parece melhor.
Peer comment(s):

agree Norbert Hermann
6 hrs
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7 mins

ideas interchange / interchange of ideas

Looks like the above expressions have been largely used in English:

The News letter of
... Competitive salaries and fringe benefits, the opportunity for personal development, a program of ideas interchange and discussion, and the opportunity to put ...
www.medrc.org.om/watermark/watermark17/article3.html

ALAC Email Archives: At-Large Advisory Committee
... of Information Society in Latin America, among other achievments), and the rest of you, will set - I hope - renewed basis for debate and ideas interchange. ...
forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00315.html

Theos-Talk Archives (April 1996 Message tl00807)
... But the others would prefer e-mail, if that's possible. We would like
to start an ideas interchange with some Russian Theosophists ... ...
www.theos-l.com/archives/199604/tl00807.html

Geography Index
... ideas, interchange of ideas, interchange of industrialized countries inquiry interaction interaction interaction interaction interaction interaction ...
www.cde.state.co.us/cdeassess/geogindx.htm
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21 mins

discuss, trade thoughts, exchange ideas

take your pick...
Peer comment(s):

agree Roberto Cavalcanti : Gostei do trade thoughts
13 hrs
agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X) : yes sorry repeated
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agree Ana Rita Santiago
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brainstorming

também... .o) ;)
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3 hrs

to share ideas

This is used all the time now.
Peer comment(s):

agree Norbert Hermann
2 hrs
agree Roberto Cavalcanti
8 hrs
agree Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
11 hrs
agree 00000000 (X) : True
11 hrs
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14 hrs

share thoughts or DISCUSS

if it's regarding doing this or that or having an opinion on this or that where both parties get to talk, I would just say discuss OR share thoughts
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3 mins

exchange ideas

It doesn't sound strange to me -- I do it all the time -- and it doesn't seem to sound strange to those who produced the 642,000 or so mentions given by Google.

Saludos

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Note added at 21 hrs 26 mins (2003-09-16 22:06:30 GMT)
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Daniel Marcus: \"I totally agree with the asker. I can\'t imagine saying to people \'Let\'s get together soon and exchange ideas.\' It sounds unnatural in English.\"

True enough, your sentence doesn\'t sound natural. But there are lots of others that do, for example: \"It a place where people can meet and exchange ideas without having to drink alcohol\", \"We\'re not close friends but we like to exchange ideas on various subjects, even intimate ones\", \"He\'s not someone with whom you can easily exchange ideas, he\'s too egocentric for that\". etc. But hey! I\'m not insisting, I\'ve already voted for William\'s suggestion...
Peer comment(s):

agree SusyZ : Yes and it has the same meaning as "trocar ideas" :-)
20 mins
agree Cristina Chaves
53 mins
agree Todd Field : that's it!
2 hrs
agree Norbert Hermann
6 hrs
agree Diogo Santos : I thought the same thing
20 hrs
neutral Daniel Marcus : I totally agree with the asker. I can't imagine saying to people 'Let's get together soon and exchange ideas.' It sounds unnatural in English.
21 hrs
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