Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

Muddled - Confused

Arabic translation:

مختلط، ملتبس

Added to glossary by Fuad Yahya
Dec 3, 2005 14:07
18 yrs ago
English term

Muddled - Confused

English to Arabic Social Sciences Psychology Moods
They appear independently in a list. Both sound the same to me. Confused implies a more serious condition, or at least that is what I think! مشوش الذهن is my favorite option. بلبلة & مضطرب are also there. Please give me your take.
Thank you
Change log

Dec 5, 2005 17:38: Fuad Yahya changed "Field" from "Other" to "Social Sciences"

Discussion

Yasser El Helw (asker) Dec 3, 2005:
Its a questionnaire aimed at establishing a "Profile of Mood States" or POMS. It includes some 30 extremely overlapping adjectives. Anyway, the matter is purely academic now that I have delivered the translation. I am interested to know what you think.
Fuad Yahya Dec 3, 2005:
What is this a list of? What are some of the other items on the list?
Yasser El Helw (asker) Dec 3, 2005:
How does ������ sound to you? For "muddled" that is. Is it too colloquial?

Proposed translations

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مختلط، ملتبس

First, thank you for providing context. The context is important because a term that may be appropriate for describing a confused sentence, for instance, may not necessarily be appropriate for describing a confused state of mind.

Let us begin by looking at the English words themselves.

Etymologically speaking, "confused" means "fused together" -- in other words, the state of mind being described is unable to distinguish certain things that should be distinguished. Matters that are supposed to be distinct are being perceived without distinction. The mind is in a "low resolution" state with regards to certain facts. A and B are "mixed together," resulting in a mixed-up state of mind.

"Muddled" means essentially the same thing, except that it uses the metaphor of water (in a pond, for instance) that has been stirred, resulting in mud getting mixed with the water. The water has lost its clarity. The eyes are unable to see through the water.

Both terms refer to a state of lessened perception and/or cogitation. Being "mixed up" figures in both terms, but with a difference. In the former, the mixing up is between the ideas themselves: two distinct ideas are not being perceived as distinct, but as mixed. In the latter, the mixing is in the medium, resulting in opacity of mind, as though the mind is looking through a thick fog.

In Arabic, the most common term for this state of mind is لبس or التباس. For example, replying to a question about the civil war that gripped the Islamic world in its infancy, Ali ibn Abi Talib said:

إنك لملبوس عليك. إن الحق والباطل لا يعرفان بأقدار الرجال. اعرف الحق، تعرف أهله، واعرف الباطل، تعرف أهله

The wise imam here is telling the questioner: "You are confused." Then he proceeded to separate the ideas for him to dispell the confusion.

Another term that we use is اختلاط. We say اختلط عليه الأمر

In colloquial language, deriviatives of اختلط have been invented that are evocative of the meaning itself. For example, لخبط and خربط produce a mixed-up jumble that demonstrate the very meaning they intend. This is very expressive, and it is unfortunate that such terms have not been accepted into the mainstream, although I personally have no objection to using them.

Other terms that refer to lessened clarity are إبهام and عجمة, but they may not be appropriate in every context.
Peer comment(s):

agree Arabella K- : I have really enjoyed reading the above lines.
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agree ahmadwadan.com : تحضرني هنا مقولة المعلق الرياضي ميمي الشربيني " إيه الحلاوة دي "
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agree Mona Ragaei : my only comment is Thanks
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks to all answerers. I chose Fouad's answer because he gave new options (not the ones I started with) and yes, Abdul Salam, all the adjectives you mentioned are present on my list."
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مشوش ومرتبك/ مضطرب

or مشوش ومضطرب
Peer comment(s):

agree Stephen Franke : Or this other colloquialism: "mundahish" = مندهش
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Thanks Stephen :)
agree Alexander Yeltsov
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Thanks Alex :)
agree Zeinab Asfour
18 hrs
Thanks Zeinab :)
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ملخبط - حائر

I think all the answers are right, it is your choice

Good luck
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متلبّك-متشوش

confused refers to the same meaning of puzzled, obscured, muddled and bewildered. So there is no big difference etween these two words. they also mean chaotic, befuddled, and confounded.
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