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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

proposition (here)

English translation:

assertive (outside-the-box) thinker

Added to glossary by Dr Lofthouse
Jun 6, 2012 00:19
12 yrs ago
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French term

proposition (here)

French to English Bus/Financial Human Resources CV /personal attributes
Qualités Personnelles :
 Compétences relationnelles.
 Bonnes capacités d’analyse et de synthèse.
 *Force de proposition*

I have :

Personal attributes:
 Good interpersonal skills
 Strong assimilation and analytical abilities
 * *

Would 'self starter' be acceptable in UK English?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 assertive (outside-the-box) thinker
4 +1 a good team player
3 +1 ability to propose suggestions/new ideas
4 driving force behind proposals
4 Confident, solution-orientated communicator
4 (source of) proposals
References
Self-starter / proactive / initiative
Change log

Jun 6, 2012 08:29: writeaway changed "Field (specific)" from "Business/Commerce (general)" to "Human Resources"

Discussion

Evans (X) Jun 6, 2012:
I think your 'self starter' is pretty close. It conveys the idea of someone able to take the initiative which I get from this French expression. And it's certainly used in the UK.
Philippa Smith Jun 6, 2012:
I'd use one of the solutions proposed in the links Gavin posted: "proactive" or "ability to take initiative".

Proposed translations

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assertive (outside-the-box) thinker

I'm admittedly taking a little leap of faith here. But my sense is here that he/she is trying to convey they assertive behavior that is/may be innovative, forward thinking.
Peer comment(s):
agree Wolf Draeger : Or strategic thinker.
1 day 8 hrs
merci
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you "
+1
7 mins

ability to propose suggestions/new ideas

maybe

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Note added at 9 mins (2012-06-06 00:28:26 GMT)
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or: innovative
Peer comment(s):
agree cc in nyc : yes, maybe
14 hrs
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59 mins
French term (edited): Force de proposition

driving force behind proposals

Le terme "proposition" ne peut être traduit seul ici. l'expression "Force de proposition" doit être traduite en entier car il s'agit d'une expression communément utilisée dans le domaine des ressources humaines.
Voir ex. FR EN ci-dessous
Example sentence:

Et c'est avant tout à la Commission européenne, en tant que force de proposition, d'y veiller principalement.

It is first and foremost up to the European Commission, in its role as a driving force behind proposals, to pay particular attention to this.

Reference:

http://www.cpmr.org/pub/docs/57_contib_crpm_lb_gouv_fr.pdf

http://www.cpmr.org/pub/docs/57_contib_crpm_lb_gouv_gb.pdf

Peer comment(s):
neutral Gavin Jack : Useful explanation, but I'm not sure if the context of the example exactly matches that of the ST. The phrase might come across as a bit presumptuous in a CV.
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Confident, solution-orientated communicator

This phrase has already given rise to a lot of discussion (see links below). Here's another option for you to choose from.

-orientated (UK); -oriented (US)
Reference:

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=313247

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/engineering:_industrial/2926567-etre_force_de_proposition.html

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+1
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a good team player

je pense que force de proposition se rapproche le plus de ce terme car être fort de proposition implique de ne pas garder des informations pour soi, de faire partager ses suggestions voire solutions.
A mon humble avis, il faut insister sur l'idée de partage et non pas sur celle de proposition en tant que telle.
Peer comment(s):
agree Wolf Draeger : Maybe embellish it a bit, like "proactive team player".
1 day 2 hrs
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1 day 6 hrs

(source of) proposals

Hello,

"Force de proposition" est un terme qui fait (au moins un peu) partie du jargon moderne des RH, et qui signifie dans les faits que la personne concernée n'a pas de pouvoir de décision (au moins dans le domaine concerné), mais demeure libre d'avancer des idées...

Parmi les différentes possibilités, celle-là me paraît être la plus simple (avec pas mal de références sur le Web).
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Reference comments

1 day 9 hrs
Reference:

Self-starter / proactive / initiative

Your original idea might not be so bad:

http://forum.aufeminin.com/forum/carriere1/__f35380_carriere...

http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=313247

http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/EmploiEtudes/Annonces-emplois/d...

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2012-06-07 10:02:30 GMT)
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Just noticed Gavin already posted the wordreference forum thread, sorry :P

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Note added at 1 day9 hrs (2012-06-07 10:03:32 GMT)
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Another previous KudoZ entry in addition to Gavin's:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/it_information_t...
Note from asker:
thank you Wolf
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