Mar 5, 2013 21:57
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Spanish term

comunidades criollas

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The extract comes from an Argentine Foundation which provides help to rural communities located in the Patagonia region. What does "criollas" refer to in this context? Could you help me with the translation of this term, please?

Objetivo general

Garantizar el acceso a la educación secundaria de calidad y a la formación técnica de jóvenes patagónicos, de comunidades rurales, mapuche y criollas, reforzando también la permanencia educativa de los mismos.

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Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 Criollo communities
4 +4 creole communities
4 criollo
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Discussion

Jorge Merino Mar 6, 2013:
Desafortunadamente el texto induce a entender que se trata de grupos étnicos separados. De hecho, las comunidades rurales pueden estar formadas por etnias mapuches y criollas, la población criolla (nacida en el lugar) puede ser urbana, semi-urbana y rural, etc. En todo caso, creo que el sentido de "criollo" aquí se refiere a las personas nacidas en el lugar, distintas a las personas con raíces indígenas. Es mi humilde opinión.

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Criollo communities

Useful discussion of the word here:

The Criollo (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈkɾjoʎos] or "creole" people) were a social class in the caste system of the overseas colonies established by Spain in the 16th century, especially in Latin America, comprising the locally-born people of pure or mostly Spanish ancestry.[1]
The Criollo class ranked below that of the Iberian Peninsulares, the high-born (yet class of commoners) permanently resident colonists born in Spain. But Criollos were higher status/rank than all other castes — people of mixed descent, Amerindians, and enslaved Africans. According to the casta system, a Criollo could have up to 1/8 (one great-grandparent or equivalent) Amerindian, ancestry and not lose social place (see Limpieza de sangre).[2] In the 18th- and early 19th centuries, changes in the Spanish Empire's policies towards her colonies (and their polyglot of peoples) led to tensions between the Criollos and the Peninsulares.[citation needed] The growth of local Criollo political and economic strength in their separate colonies coupled with their global geographic distribution, and led them to each evolve a separate (both from each other and Spain) organic national personality and viewpoint. Criollos were the main supporters of the Spanish American wars of independence.[citation needed]
The term criollo is often translated into English as creole. However, the word "creole" is also applied to many ethnic groups around the world who have no historic connection to Spain or to any colonial system. Indeed, many of those creole peoples were never a distinct social caste, and were never defined by purity of descent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criollo_people
Note from asker:
Thank you, Jane. Very complete information.
Peer comment(s):

agree BeatrizDR
3 hrs
agree GRI BUONGIORNE : good job!
3 hrs
agree Marian Vieyra : Good explanation that tells me 'criollo' should be left in the original and not translated as 'creolel'.
15 hrs
agree Muriel Vasconcellos (X) : But lowercase, of course
1 day 10 mins
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criollo

IMHO as an Argentinian, I always believed the criollo to be associated with anything that had to do with the "pampas", traditional Argentinian folklore, and the world of the Gaucho. I agree with all the other input, very informative.
I think it is referring to the natives of the region.

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an example might be the "Criollo" horse which is basically the Argentine counterpart of the Australian Brumby (or used to be when they ran wild on the Pampas) and the American Quarter Horse, something truly Argentinian folkloric...just my 2 c.
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creole communities

Creole Community | Explore Historic Natchitoches Louisiana
www.explorenatchitoches.com/.../creole-commu... - Diese Seite übersetzen
The term Creole comes from a Spanish word meaning born of the New World. It was a label to sort colonials and their culture from that of native Europeans

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Creole (people) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/.../Creole -
17.02.2001 – Creole, Spanish Criollo, French Créole, originally, any person of ... refer to all the people, whatever their class or ancestry—European, African
Peer comment(s):

agree HRPoole (X)
6 mins
thank you, HRPoole !
agree philgoddard
28 mins
thank you, philgoddard !
agree Jenni Lukac (X)
30 mins
thank you, Jenni !
agree James A. Walsh
35 mins
thank you, James !
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