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национальная идея

English translation: sense of national identity

15:11 Dec 1, 2005
Russian to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Russian term or phrase: национальная идея
большинство молодых людей положительно отвечают на вопрос о том, нужна ли России национальная идея
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English translation:sense of national identity
Explanation:
Giacomo
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Giacomo Camaiora (X)
Italy
Local time: 06:58
Grading comment
хорошая идея, но не в данном контексте
3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +4national concept
Andrey Belousov (X)
4 +2a concept of itself as a nation
Jack Doughty
3 +3national idea
Nadezhda Kirichenko
3 +1sense of national identity
Giacomo Camaiora (X)
3national dream
koundelev
4 -3idea of nationalism
Vladimir Dubisskiy


Discussion entries: 4





  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
национальная идея
a concept of itself as a nation


Explanation:
Not quite an "idea" in English, and I think it needs a bit more explanation than just "national concept".

Jack Doughty
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:58
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 75

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mikhail Kropotov: Certainly!
1 hr
  -> Thank you.
agree  Svetlana Chekunova
2 hrs
  -> Thank you.
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
национальная идея
national idea


Explanation:
since it's more common to use it in Russian language I'm not sure you can find the exact term in English language.

See the link below (however the term is used by a Russian national according to the article).


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Note added at 14 mins (2005-12-01 15:25:24 GMT)
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/campaig...


    Reference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/893137.stm
Nadezhda Kirichenko
Local time: 05:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GaryG: 27,100 hits on this phrase in Google; the first page has hits for Zionism, Russian, Ukraine, and Azerbayjan
21 mins
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agree  Mikhail Kriviniouk: UK google: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q="national idea"&btnG=...
26 mins
  -> thank you
agree  Roman Bulkiewicz
16 hrs
  -> thanks :)
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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
национальная идея
national concept


Explanation:
С. Н. Полторак. Современная российская национальная идея в контексте ...
Modern Russian national concept in the context of historical experience of October ...
www.unilib.neva.ru/rus/ntv/Oglav/1_98.htm

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Note added at 44 mins (2005-12-01 15:55:51 GMT)
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Если-уж про Google говорить, то 93 500 000 для данной фразы...

Andrey Belousov (X)
United States
Local time: 00:58
Native speaker of: Russian
PRO pts in category: 23

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Vlad Pogosyan
37 mins
  -> Thank you! :-)
agree  Sergei_A
2 hrs
  -> Thank you! :-)
agree  koundelev: :-)
6 hrs
  -> Thank you! :-)
agree  Levan Namoradze
15 hrs
  -> Thank you! :-)
neutral  Roman Bulkiewicz: "93 500 000 для данной фразы..." Если посмотреть чуть ниже количества хитов, то, по крайней мере, на первых страницах это в основном "государственная концепция" :)
17 hrs
  -> У нас ,то-ли, Гугли разные - сорри, не вижу.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
национальная идея
sense of national identity


Explanation:
Giacomo

Giacomo Camaiora (X)
Italy
Local time: 06:58
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 3
Grading comment
хорошая идея, но не в данном контексте

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mikhail Kropotov: This could be a great match **in some situations**.
4 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
национальная идея
idea of nationalism


Explanation:
I am pretty sure this is it.

The **idea of nationalism** increasingly controlled Austro-Hungarian politics, not necessarily for the better. It remained to be seen how well the ambiguous ...
www.lib.msu.edu/sowards/balkan/lect07.htm - 38k - Cached - Similar pages

Dictionary of the History of Ideas
Tied to the **idea of nationalism**, political romanticism would not be without influence on the theater of Kleist, as well as on the nationalist diatribes of ...
etext.lib.virginia.edu/cgi-local/DHI/dhi.cgi?id=dv4-27

The whole **idea of nationalism** makes it harder for people to approach the idea of peace, the existence of which is imperative in this day and age. ...
www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/98-1/issue6/nationalism.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages

IHMSG Newsletter: Volume 5, no.1: Spring 1999
Most importantly, he affirmed that the idea of nationalism is not always an external ... Clearly, the "idea of nationalism" has never been well-understood, ...
www.dartmouth.edu/~hispanic/v5n1.html



Vladimir Dubisskiy
United States
Local time: 23:58
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 12

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Mikhail Kriviniouk: такого "мимо" я давно не видел :))
1 hr
  -> это он и есть, тот самый... как в том анекдоте "если зеленое, прыгает и квакает" - точно, лягушка.
disagree  Mikhail Kropotov: Идея национализма действительно приходит в голову многим, но будем надеяться, что в национальную идею она не превратится
3 hrs
  -> "Приходит многим" это не то слово :-)) А здесь именно это имеется в виду - "национальная идея" это и есть "национализм", табуированное слово. Но дружили ж с НСДАП, парады вместе принимали, помогали друг другу.
disagree  Roman Bulkiewicz: не буду ругать слово nationalism, но во всех приведенных Вами примерах это словосочетание вовсе не имеет смысла "национальная идея"
12 hrs
  -> but "национальная идея" = nationalism 100%, thank you.
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
национальная идея
national dream


Explanation:
ради расширения поисков...

koundelev
Local time: 07:58
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 8
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