Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
Leur déclarant qu'à défaut de
English translation:
stating/informing (them) that failure to
French term
Accuracy & Attention to Detail
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, Italian to English, and 2 more.
Leur déclarant qu'à défaut de
Context:
Lui dénonçant en tête des présentes
- les Conclusions qui ont d'ores et déjà été déposées devant la Cour et signifiées par les parties.
- la copie du bulletin de mise en état,
lui précisant que l'affaire est distribuée devant la 12ème Chambre Section B de la Cour sous le numéro de RG XX/XXXXX et d'ores et déjà fixée;
pour clôture au DATE ET HEURE;
pour plaider au DATE ET HEURE
Leur déclarant qu'à défaut de se faire représenter par le ministère d'un avoué constitué près la Cour d'Appel de VERSAILLES, 5, rue Carnot dans le délai de QUINZAINE à compter de la signification des présentes, dans le délai de QUINZE JOURS augmenté d'UN MOIS pour les personnes demeurant dans un département ou territoire d'Outre - Mer, et de DEUX MOIS pour celles demeurant à l'étranger à la date de la présente assignation, un arrêt contradictoire pourra être rendu.
Aug 5, 2010 07:32: mimi 254 Created KOG entry
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Proposed translations
stating/declaring (to them) that failure to
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AllegroTrans
: "stating" sounds better than declaring in English
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Agree - Thanks!
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Chris Hall
: This also works.
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Thanks!
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kashew
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Thanks!
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Euqinimod (X)
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Thanks!
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Reactive, reliable, win/win service
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English to French
Serving them notice that unless
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"à défaut de" means "failing".
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AllegroTrans
: There is nothing here about serving a notice
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ok, "notifying" then... / at least I had the sense not to rate my suggestion a "5"...
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Chris Hall
: "Serving notice" is very different indeed to simply "notifying". / Because your original answer "serving notice" has no correlation whatsoever to "notifying".
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so why disagree with my amendment?
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philgoddard
: This is perfectly OK. It doesn't necessarily mean turning up on their doorstep with a piece of paper.
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thank you
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Desdemone (X)
: Agree with Phil, and with asnwerer's amendment.
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thank you!
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219 témoignages et ils ne cessent pas...
Native in: English (Variants: UK, British)
Works in: French to English
Declaring to them that in the absence of
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http://en.bab.la/dictionary/french-english/a-defaut-de
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Leur déclarant qu'à défaut de se faire représenter par le ministère
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Declaring to them that in the absence of being represented by the ministry
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David BUICK
: in the absence of what? / which you would translate how following that beginning? / what "ministry" would that be??!!
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"se faire représenter par le ministère" / Declaring to them that in the absence of being represented by the ministry / I believe that I have said enough to justify my answer.
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philgoddard
: Eutychus is right - this doesn't fit the context, so it doesn't justify a 5.
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Phil - IMO, it is standard legalese.
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Desdemone (X)
: I wouldn't say declaring to them is standard legalese! (nor for that matter is "in the absence of" for à defaut)
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James Roberts
: There's no "ministry", it's by means of a lawyer, or something similar: http://www.juripole.fr/traduction-juridique/Bulletins/mai-ju...
Fair point, Chris - I've changed it to "neutral".
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Should I not be judged on my answer given to "Leur déclarant qu'à défaut de"???
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ACOZ (X)
: Just for information, Chris: "par le ministère d'un avoué" just means "by" or "through". When I used to interpret for the police, the statements used to end with "lu à l'interessé par le truchement de l'interprète", which again just meant "by" .
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AllegroTrans
: sounds franglais to me
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English lawyer - 11 years in practice
Native in: English
Works in: Arabic to English, French to English, Persian (Farsi) to English
Ordering that in the event of their failure to ...
Informing them that, should they fail to be represented by ....
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Bentcliff
: I think "Stating that, should they fail..." would also work well.
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