Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
subvenciones finalistas
English translation:
ringfenced/special-purpose/earmarked subsidies
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William Pairman
Mar 14, 2018 18:23
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subvenciones finalistas
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Destaca el enorme gasto en la aplicación “Mezclas Asfálticas” del presupuesto de 2015, que casi alcanza el 30% del total del presupuesto de ese año y que sólo sería sostenible si fuese financiado con subvenciones finalistas de otras Administraciones Públicas.
The MT has it as "finalist grants", can I get away with just "subsidies"? I don't see what the adjective "finalista" adds
Destaca el enorme gasto en la aplicación “Mezclas Asfálticas” del presupuesto de 2015, que casi alcanza el 30% del total del presupuesto de ese año y que sólo sería sostenible si fuese financiado con subvenciones finalistas de otras Administraciones Públicas.
The MT has it as "finalist grants", can I get away with just "subsidies"? I don't see what the adjective "finalista" adds
Proposed translations
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| 4 +5 | special-purpose subsidies |
philgoddard
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| 4 | final subsidies |
Jo Hance
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| 2 | Assigned subsidy |
Adam Greaves
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Proposed translations
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special-purpose subsidies
It comes from finalidad, meaning purpose. You could also say "earmarked" or "ringfenced".
Las subvenciones finalistas tienen un objetivo concreto que tiene que encuadrarse en un fin de interés público: fomento de una actividad de utilidad pública o interés social o de promoción de una **finalidad pública**.
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http://www.spanishcentral.com/translate/finalidad
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I don't think you need to translate the idea of "utilidad pública o interés social", because that's what subsidies are for - they benefit society.
Las subvenciones finalistas tienen un objetivo concreto que tiene que encuadrarse en un fin de interés público: fomento de una actividad de utilidad pública o interés social o de promoción de una **finalidad pública**.
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http://www.spanishcentral.com/translate/finalidad
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I don't think you need to translate the idea of "utilidad pública o interés social", because that's what subsidies are for - they benefit society.
Peer comment(s):
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patinba
1 hr
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| agree |
Meridy Lippoldt
: yes..makes eminent sense to me..brilliant. I was going to say ad hoc but I like Phil's suggestion better.
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| agree |
Andy Watkinson
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| agree |
Jo Hance
: Thanks for your input Andy, as I say, one always needs more context
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| agree |
Robert Carter
: Are you just assuming that it comes from "finalidad" or do you have any references for this? Adam posted a link below that seems worthy of note.//Oh, I see, sorry. That second link is broken, btw.
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I've already given a reference.
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Comment: "Thanks everyone, I ended up using "ringfenced""
3 mins
final subsidies
They probably don't yet know how much the subsidies will amount to.
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Subsidies have been finalised - perhaps?
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Subsidies have been finalised - perhaps?
Peer comment(s):
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neilmac
: Yes, there should be some hint of "final" in there somewhere...
11 mins
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| neutral |
philgoddard
: No, it doesn't mean "last".
17 mins
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| disagree |
Andy Watkinson
: Sorry to disagree but this means they are not general but intended for a specific "finalidad" or purpose.
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Assigned subsidy
I found this definition: estas ayudas son aquellas que se cobran tras la justificación de los gastos e inversiones incluidos en el presupuesto del proyecto, es decir exigen para pagar la ayuda que la empresa previamente haya realizado y pagado todos los costes, en estas ayudas se pone de manifiesto el "carácter incentivador de las ayudas", es decir que el cobro de la ayuda correspondiente a un proyecto sirve para financiar el siguiente proyecto de la empresa.
The EU IATE site gives ingreso finalista as assigned revenue
The EU IATE site gives ingreso finalista as assigned revenue
Peer comment(s):
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Robert Carter
: The "subvencionate" link looks good, but I'm not sure about the IATE translation. Seems to refer to a subsidy granted after expenditure, rather than before.
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