Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Sep 12, 2013 12:42
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French term
reçues
French to English
Social Sciences
Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc.
Belle Epoque
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The context is women's move into playing a more active role around the First World War. The author writes that women were no longer on the fringes of society, unlike the the "courtisanes de la Belle Epoque qui n'étaient pas 'reçues'". "Reçues" is in inverted commas in the original.
Clearly this means they were not welcomed into "respectable" circles but is there a short, even one-word way to say this? I don't think "received" works.
I've researched demimondaines and Victorian etiquette to no avail so far.
Many thanks.
The context is women's move into playing a more active role around the First World War. The author writes that women were no longer on the fringes of society, unlike the the "courtisanes de la Belle Epoque qui n'étaient pas 'reçues'". "Reçues" is in inverted commas in the original.
Clearly this means they were not welcomed into "respectable" circles but is there a short, even one-word way to say this? I don't think "received" works.
I've researched demimondaines and Victorian etiquette to no avail so far.
Many thanks.
Proposed translations
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Change log
Sep 12, 2013 13:01: Emanuela Galdelli changed "Term asked" from "\"reçues\"" to "reçues"
Sep 13, 2013 15:40: jmleger Created KOG entry
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French term (edited):
"reçues"
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acknowledged
a suggestion
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Comment: "Tough call. Emma's suggestion of warmly received set me thinking that I perhaps needed to qualify "received" in some way and thought of "received into society" (cf. refs. in discussion box). Despite being a big fan of Tony and loving his answer, I didn't feel it fit the register of my text. Ultimately, "acknowledged" comes closest, at least IMHO. I certainly didn't want to close without grading giving the number of good answers and the brainstorming that ensued. Thanks and a great weekend to all."
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French term (edited):
"reçues"
accepted
'Accepted' could perhaps work in this context
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Tony M
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Thanks Tony
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Emma Paulay
: or "invited". In French we do say "je reçois ce soir" when we've invited friends for dinner.
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Thanks Emma
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GILLES MEUNIER
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Thanks Gilou
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French term (edited):
"reçues"
"inner circle" or "elite" or "spheres of influence"
I don't know that you'll be able to find a one-word solution. I would likely rework the sentence and go with something like, "who were barred from the spheres of influence".
You could also try to play with "being kept in the recesses" or "contained".
Good luck!
You could also try to play with "being kept in the recesses" or "contained".
Good luck!
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(considered) "acceptable"
A matter of perception. Inverted commas indicate that this is an opinion of the times.
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who were not considered 'polite company'
Another possibility, to convey the idea of (not) being fit to be invited into people's drawing-rooms.
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Olga Koepping
: I like that, very idiomatic
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Thanks, Olga!
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philgoddard
: I think that's precisely the sense of recevoir here.
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Thanks, Phil! :-)
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Evans (X)
: Yes, this works nicely
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Thanks, Gilla!
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Jocelyne S
: 'Chapeau'!
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Merci, Jocelyne !
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polyglot45
: I hate to say it, Tony, but surely they are talking about (polite) society rather than polite company ?
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Yes, but we're not even talking about 'society' here; 'not polite company' is a euphemism for 'not the sort of people one wants to be seen with'
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Yolanda Broad
: Included in polite company. You had to be a member of "society" to be included in society events.
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Thanks, Yolanda! Yes, otherwise you were 'transparent', invisible...
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Jim Tucker (X)
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Thanks, Jim!
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mill2
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Thanks, Mill!
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were treated like pariahs
considered socially unacceptable
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SNUBBED by society
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cold-shouldered
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ostracised by polite society
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SNUBBED by society
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cold-shouldered
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ostracised by polite society
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warmly received
Although "received" on its own doesn't work, I think "not warmly received" does.
Discussion
http://comiczine-fa.com/?p=1195
A lady grinning as much as Miss Elizabeth and her sisters are shown would not be received into society, and might be assumed, by gentlemen of her acquaintance, to be inviting intercourse of a more than conversational nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Redfern
Soon after Lachlan Macquarie's arrival as governor in 1810, he stated that he found that no transported men had yet been received into society at Sydney. He felt, however, "that emancipation, when united with rectitude and long-tried good conduct, should lead a man back to that rank in society which he had forfeited".