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español term or phrase:
bóveda sin soportes, que es la bóveda del crucero
inglés translation:
unsupported vault, which is the intersecting vault/cross vault/groin vault
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Lydia De Jorge
Jun 17, 2008 15:51
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español term
bóveda sin soportes, que es la bóveda del crucero
español al inglés
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Tenemos aquí en la Iglesia una de las más formidables bóvedas que existen en Europa Occidental. Es una obra magnífica. Este monumento se hizo por voluntad de un Rey, pero va a escoger a un arquitecto, que ciertamente tenía que ser un arquitecto ya con fama y con conocimiento muy serio para poder hacer la obra que aquí tenemos.
Ciertamente, después de un trabajo más completo, le vamos a ver con mucho más cuidado en la gran **bóveda sin soportes, que es la bóveda del crucero**, sino también en la otra, que son únicas en el mundo.
Ciertamente, después de un trabajo más completo, le vamos a ver con mucho más cuidado en la gran **bóveda sin soportes, que es la bóveda del crucero**, sino también en la otra, que son únicas en el mundo.
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unsupported vault, which is the intersecting vault/cross vault/groin vault
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groin_vault
I believe this refers to the intersection of two barrel vaults.
I believe this refers to the intersection of two barrel vaults.
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Carol Gullidge
: this seems the closest so far, unless there is a special term for an unsupported vault. Cross or groin vault checks out here: http://www.royalarchmasons.on.ca/architecture.htm
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Gracias Carol!
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Egmont
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Gracial!
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ribbed vault which is the transept's vault
It's what my Polytechnical dictionary Castilla says. Good luck.
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22 minutos
a self-supporting vault, which is a rib vault
that's how it is
31 minutos
groined or diagonal ribbed vault
Este es lo más usado. Son temas que he trabajado durante muchos años y vale la bena añadir "diagonal" porque simplemente "ribbed" sería sólo bóveda de nervadura y de no usarse el "groined or" pudiera ser de arista. Así creo que no hay pierde.
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ribbed vault or rib vault
A type of Gothic vault. See the two wikipedia references:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bóveda_de_crucería
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib_vault
hope this helps!
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He completed the retaining walls and the unique single-span **ribbed vault**, a combination of stellar vaulting and tracery vaults spanning the 19 m-wide church. Each set of ribs in the vaulting is secured by bosses. The bold design (1522) of the transversal **vault of the transept lacks any piers or columns**, while Boitac had originally planned three bays in the transept. The **unsupported vault** of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it floats in the air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerónimos_Monastery
an usupported vault means no columns or piers, not no support at all :)
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bóveda_de_crucería
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rib_vault
hope this helps!
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He completed the retaining walls and the unique single-span **ribbed vault**, a combination of stellar vaulting and tracery vaults spanning the 19 m-wide church. Each set of ribs in the vaulting is secured by bosses. The bold design (1522) of the transversal **vault of the transept lacks any piers or columns**, while Boitac had originally planned three bays in the transept. The **unsupported vault** of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it floats in the air.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerónimos_Monastery
an usupported vault means no columns or piers, not no support at all :)
4 horas
unsupported vault, which is the transept vault
Just discovered (rather tardily!) that transept = crucero (according to the trusty Collins)
and, presumably "la otra" refers to the vault of the main aisle...
haven't been able to find a special term for "unsupported vault", though no doubt there is one, but here are a few "unsupported vaults" to be going on with
Jerónimos Monastery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe unsupported vault of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it floats in the air. Royal tombs in the main chapel. Each sarcophagus is held ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jer%C3%B3nimos_Monastery - 52k - Cached - Similar pages
Jerónimos Monastery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe architect Diogo de Torralva resumed the construction of the monastery ... The unsupported vault of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it ...
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Tiepolo's Heaven on Earth - International Herald Tribune... the Residenz included the revolutionary unsupported vault of the Treppenhaus ... Neumann's elaborate internal architecture and the exceedingly intricate ...
www.iht.com/articles/1996/04/13/tiepo.t.php - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
MidlandsIf one looks outside one will see massive buttresses taking the strain of this wonderfully unsupported vault. The Minster is set in a lovely grassed ...
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NB, the cross or groin vault would be where the 2 vaults (main and transept) meet or cross over
and, presumably "la otra" refers to the vault of the main aisle...
haven't been able to find a special term for "unsupported vault", though no doubt there is one, but here are a few "unsupported vaults" to be going on with
Jerónimos Monastery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe unsupported vault of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it floats in the air. Royal tombs in the main chapel. Each sarcophagus is held ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jer%C3%B3nimos_Monastery - 52k - Cached - Similar pages
Jerónimos Monastery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe architect Diogo de Torralva resumed the construction of the monastery ... The unsupported vault of the transept gives the viewer the impression as if it ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jer%C3%B3nimos_Monastery - 52k - Cached - Similar pages
Tiepolo's Heaven on Earth - International Herald Tribune... the Residenz included the revolutionary unsupported vault of the Treppenhaus ... Neumann's elaborate internal architecture and the exceedingly intricate ...
www.iht.com/articles/1996/04/13/tiepo.t.php - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
MidlandsIf one looks outside one will see massive buttresses taking the strain of this wonderfully unsupported vault. The Minster is set in a lovely grassed ...
www.charter-travel.com/midlands.htm - 40k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 4 hrs (2008-06-17 20:34:34 GMT)
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NB, the cross or groin vault would be where the 2 vaults (main and transept) meet or cross over
Discussion
it looks as if the 'gran bóveda sin soportes' just happens also to be the 'bóveda del crucero' (cross or groin vault). But if you look at those pix of groin vaults, there doesn't appear to ba anything supporting them. La otra is an unfathomable mystery
ribbed vaults, in which the inner vault surface is subdivided by a number of independent supporting arches, or ribs
http://www.royalarchmasons.on.ca/architecture.htm