"样板戏”入教材，是谁之忧？

lbone wrote: 4:09am
这个帖敏感词比较多

已经被功夫网盯上了。

我现在看这个帖一次，和ProZ的连接就会封几分钟。

Yueyin Sun wrote:
so what?
身在“自由世界”的人根本就不care。“政治课”入Proz.com “教材”，是谁之忧？

lai an wrote:

We know about this custom in New Zealand because of Sir Edmund Hillary's connections with the Sherpas 夏尔巴 of Nepal.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/sports/2008-01/22/content_7472444.htm
'新西兰为征服珠峰第一人希拉里举行国葬'
"希拉里的灵柩覆盖着新西兰国旗和尼泊尔夏尔巴人代表敬献的哈达。"

stone118 wrote:





我看 Yueyin 上面那帖，只是回覆 Lbone 的帖子而已。我的理解是：Yueyin 是在指責身在自由世界的同仁們根本不 care 這帖子會不會造成內地同仁上 Proz 的困難，而在這裏談了太多敏感內容。他只是在諷刺大家在 Proz.com （不顧版規）開太多政治課，所以造成內地同仁使用上的不便及「忧」。

Wenjer Leuschel wrote:

这显然应该是身在“不自由世界”的人之忧。

我可以清楚明白说：我很庆幸自己已经达到条件，可以随时身在“自由世界”，但我对那些身在“不自由世界”的人并不因此不care，更希望他们能够戒慎恐惧，默默耕耘实力，早日像这里的不少同事一样脱离“不自由世界”。要等到某些人发展出智慧，恐怕比自己发展出智慧更加困难。大家各自努力，自求多福吧。

中国部分知识分子发表“关于处理西藏局势的十二点意见”也许只是“书生空谈”，但他们在恶劣的环境下还能保有社会公平正义的理想，比起某些身在“自由世界”却不仅不care的人，他们已经很值得我敬佩了。

wherestip wrote:

I just happened to run into this video clip. It's obviously poking fun, Andy Rooney style, at how people get so emotionally charged on sensitive issues such as race in America. That's why I think it's better to avoid sensitive topics. And if we do have to talk about them, it might help to try to leave one's moral beliefs and personal convictions out of it as much as possible.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/03/24/moos.touchy.touchy.cnn

http://www.achieving-life-abundance.com/definition-of-moral-belief.html

Kevin Yang wrote:
Mar 24

Please be considerate.

Lesley,

I have to remind you that this forum is designated for using Chinese. Please ease off introducing English articles from other websites. You have posted too many messages that are not appropriate and have taken lots of my time to review them. Please be considerate.

Kevin

days? The news coverage on CNN.

Since March 21, Beijing Internet entrepreneur Rao Jin has been operating the Web site anti-cnn.com to document what he sees as inaccurate foreign coverage of the recent unrest in Tibet. Earlier this month, Tibetan protests against Chinese rule turned violent in Lhasa, and have spread elsewhere in China.

"Most news coverage on the Tibetan uprising is biased or exaggerated," says Mr. Rao, pointing the finger at the Time Warner Inc. cable news channel, as well as the Washington Post Co.'s flagship newspaper.

In China, many citizens see no conflict in making searing critiques of inaccuracies in the Western media, even as the Chinese government actively censors the news out of Tibet. The backlash highlights the depth of animosity widely felt in China toward Western attitudes about what many Chinese feel is a domestic issue.

On Tuesday, China continued to grapple with protests among its Tibetan population. State-controlled news media said one policeman was killed and several others were injured after a group attacked them Monday in Garze, an ethnically Tibetan area of Sichuan province. Police fired warning shots to disperse the crowd, Chinese state news agency Xinhua reported. The India-based Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy said its sources claimed that protesters clashed with armed police, who subsequently fired into the crowd, killing one monk and leaving another in critical condition, the Associated Press reported.

Police in Garze didn't respond to a request for comment. The Chinese government on Tuesday said 22 people have died so far in the unrest in Lhasa, while the exiled Tibetan government puts the number closer to 140 in a broader region.

As it is taught in Chinese schools, Tibet has been a part of the Chinese nation for hundreds of years, and the Dalai Lama's appointment has always been subject to Beijing's approval. This coincides with the modern idea of China as a country that harmoniously incorporates 56 distinct ethnic groups -- the majority Han (around 92% of the population) along with 55 minorities, including Tibetans. At the same time, experts say, China's experience of being partly colonized by foreign powers in the 19th and 20th centuries makes many people deeply suspicious of foreign involvement in Chinese affairs.

Not all Chinese have defended the government's position. On Saturday, more than two dozen Chinese intellectuals signed an open petition laying out a 12-point plan for dealing with the Tibetan situation. Their points included ending the government-run media's "one-sided propaganda campaign," allowing foreign media to report in Tibet and negotiating directly with the Dalai Lama.

For nearly two weeks, information about Tibet has been extremely hard to come by. Government-controlled media have kept their coverage sparse, while foreign journalists have been ejected from Tibet.

Broadcasts of foreign channels such as CNN, which are ordinarily allowed only in select hotels and special compounds, now face blackouts even there when Tibet news comes on. Many Web sites offering news, video or comment about the situation have been blocked, including Google Inc.'s YouTube, which was inaccessible inside China for nearly a week after the uprising began. Access to YouTube was restored Sunday, but portions of the site remained blocked, including most news clips about Tibet by Western media outlets. A search for "CNN" on YouTube in China generated an error message.

Amid the confusion, the Internet is serving as a propaganda battleground in shaping Chinese opinions.

In particular, some Chinese are using the Web to attack the accuracy of Western reporting about the Tibet situation. Their argument: foreign news media frequently write about censorship in the Chinese press, so they should be forced to see their own bias.

Mr. Rao's anti-cnn.com site has been visited by more than 100,000 people so far, he says. The 23-year-old entrepreneur, who runs an Internet-services company, says he came up with the idea for the site after chatting with friends outside China who felt that much of the Tibet coverage was biased or exaggerated.

So far, Mr. Rao says his site has collected more than a dozen inaccuracies or exaggerations in the Western press, he says. One example: He says CNN's Web site ran a photo from news agency Agence France-Presse that was cropped to show a police van, but not people nearby attacking the vehicle with stones. On some occasions, he says, a CNN anchor has also referred to Tibet as a "country."

A CNN spokeswoman says the image in question had to be cropped to fit the standard story size of the site. "It was impossible to include both the drama of the crashed vehicle on the left and the protesters on the right in the same crop," she says, noting that the image's caption said that Tibetans were throwing stones.

"CNN not only stands by its decision to publish the image in question, but also refutes all allegations by bloggers that CNN distorts its coverage of the events in Tibet to portray either side in a more favorable light," she says. CNN calls the "country" reference a "spoken error" which wasn't repeated by the on-air graphic.

Mr. Rao says his site isn't targeting CNN in particular, but picked it for the name because it "stands for the voice of the mainstream Western media." He hopes that "running the Web site will help supervise the media at home and abroad and help uphold journalism ethics."

Many of the complaints made by Mr. Rao and other bloggers are about photos with inaccurate captions, depicting violent police crackdowns on Tibetan protestors in Nepal and India but labeling them as taking place in Tibet. The errors, say bloggers, create the misimpression that the violence has been one way, from Chinese police toward Tibetans.

The Washington Post Web site has amended a caption on a photo to correct the location and published an editor's note saying, "The caption for an earlier version of this slideshow was incorrectly associated with a photo from Nepal."

German TV station n-tv Nachrichtenfernsehen GmbH admitted in a statement that it had heard from some Web sites and newspapers that it had used pictures in the wrong context, and has corrected them. "We sincerely regret this mistake while, at the same time, assert that n-tv reports independently," said company spokesman Christoph Hammerschmidt.

The domestic Chinese press has picked up on the efforts of Mr. Rao and other bloggers. Sunday's Southern Metropolis Daily newspaper in Guangzhou ran a full-page story documenting the "unbelievable variety of errors."

Mr. Rao says he is aware that the Chinese government itself works to censor the information available about Tibet, which makes it difficult for journalists to do their jobs. Yet he supports the restrictions because, "if [foreign reporters] are biased before getting into Tibet, they are very likely to work out one-sided stories about the incident," he says.

So where does he turn for the accurate information?

"I read books and search for information online," he says. "Netizens here are able to make their own judgments on things. They do not rely only on the government or Western media for information. They apply their tech prowess in searching for information and verifying things they've been told."

YouTube now hosts a video, watched more than 1.7 million times as of Tuesday night China time, titled "Tibet was, is and always will be a part of China." There are responses on YouTube from the other side, too -- including one titled "Tibet is not, should not and will never be a part of China" -- but they are far outnumbered so far.

If anything, Mr. Rao says, the Chinese government would do itself a service by reducing the censorship it applies to foreign sites such as YouTube, "to allow a larger stage for Chinese Netizens to fight back."

From the Wall Street Journal

[Edited at 2008-03-25 21:28]

The Washington Post Web site has amended a caption on a photo to correct the location and published an editor's note saying, "The caption for an earlier version of this slideshow was incorrectly associated with a photo from Nepal."

German TV station n-tv Nachrichtenfernsehen GmbH admitted in a statement that it had heard from some Web sites and newspapers that it had used pictures in the wrong context, and has corrected them. "We sincerely regret this mistake while, at the same time, assert that n-tv reports independently," said company spokesman Christoph Hammerschmidt.

wherestip wrote:


This morning I was reading a piece of news that the U.S. said the U.S. Defense Dept. mistakenly sent some ballistic missile components to Taiwan for an order of helicopter batteries. Geez! 真是哪壶不开提哪壶.



[Edited at 2008-03-25 21:52]

Wenjer Leuschel wrote:

I am just wondering what those people would do if their motherland happened to come into conflict with their chosen fatherland.