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souflette
May 20, 2011 14:26
13 yrs ago
French term

arche entre deux amorces

French to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature sculpture
"Le pont, c‘est un symbole – l‘arche entre deux amorces d‘une route."
Proposed translations (English)
3 an arch that leads to the options
3 +2 an arch between two roads setting off in different directions
4 arch between two butts/stumps
4 gateway between two ends
3 An "arch"/"raised curve" between two "starting points" / "extremities"
3 An arc between the springing of two roads
3 an arch between two points of departure
3 an arc linking two directions
2 an arch linking two diffferent paths
References
Road ends
different interpretations of " arche" route"amorces"

Discussion

cc in nyc May 21, 2011:
concept over shape Given the longer citation and the larger context it provides (very helpful), it sounds (to me) as if the concept of connection is more important than the description of the curbed arch. So perhaps this bridge is a link between two segments of a single journey, the connection between the present and the future...
kashew (asker) May 21, 2011:
Archway to byways - how about that?
kashew (asker) May 20, 2011:
The whole thing: Commentary on a sculpture entitled "Le gardien du pont":
Le pont, c‘est un symbole – l‘arche entre deux amorces d‘une route.
C‘est la jonction entre le temps présent et le futur,
Entre ce que nous avons et ce que nous désirons avoir peut-être,
Entre la quiétude et l‘incertitude.

Le gardien du pont ne décide pas qui à la permission de le traverser,
Mais il est le dernier qui puisse nous arrêter par une question posée,
Si nous fuyons ou si nous avons envie de découvrir,
Si nous sommes résolus et prêts pour le danger, le bonheur et le malheur.
Just Opera May 20, 2011:
alludes to DNA i.e. the bridge as 'helix arch' and amorce = primer.

Each starting point of the road as the starting point of a molecular matrix.

Amorce (génétique)
Courte séquence d'ARN ou d'ADN, complémentaire du début d'une matrice, servant de point de départ à la synthèse du brin complémentaire de cette dernière par une ADN polymérase.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorce_(génétique)

primer |ˈprīmər| noun
Biochemistry a molecule that serves as a starting material for a polymerization process.

Proposed translations

1 day 1 hr
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an arch that leads to the options

or something to that effect...

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Note added at 4 days (2011-05-25 05:15:22 GMT) Post-grading
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Thank you Johnny!
Note from asker:
Nice - a good candidate.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "That's roughly what I used - Thanks"
21 mins

arch between two butts/stumps

or, more liberally, you might even say "arch between two anchors"
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An "arch"/"raised curve" between two "starting points" / "extremities"

This is two ideas for an alternative choice - ie. can be mixed and matched:

An arch between two starting points
An arch between two extremities
A raised curve between two starting points
A raised curve between two extremities
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7 hrs

an arch linking two diffferent paths

another sugg.
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10 hrs

An arc between the springing of two roads

I think I would go for an architectural term here - gives it a bit more poetry. Bit of a play on words - arc/arch - the start of an arch is called the springing point:

http://www.network-arch.com/index.php?/design/arch-springing...
Peer comment(s):
neutral B D Finch : Wouldn't it be the bridge that has springing points, rather than the roads?
14 hrs
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56 mins

an arch between two roads setting off in different directions

Since we are in the realms of symbolism here.

Hard to be sure without sight of the rest of the text but is it not making the point that a bridge can be seen as an arch between two roads setting off away from each other.

Be nice to know more about the sculpture concerned.

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Given the rest of the context, I wonder whether "an arch between two points in a road" might work better, because there is a continuum between the past and the future. The arch of the bridge marks a place in this continuum - the present.
Peer comment(s):
agree Jean Lachaud : Depending on the context
29 mins
thanks, JL01
agree Rachel Fell
6 hrs
Thanks Rachel!
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1 day 33 mins

an arch between two points of departure

Points of departure can be physical or symbolic/metaphorical.
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an arc linking two directions

just to follow the symbolic lead

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arch
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2 days 1 hr

gateway between two ends

Or perhaps "gateway linking two legs of a single journey." The two "amorces" do not diverge (like "two roads diverged in a wood"); instead, as the bridge is crossed, they become a continuum.

IMO the concept of bridge as a the link between the two "amorces" is more important than the visual image of the arc/arch and road.

[Posted after kashew provided additional context in the Discussion.]
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Road ends

Seems to be the part of the road leading onto the bridge
Reference:

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/poetry_literature/4369115-arche_entre_deux_amorces.html

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Reference:

different interpretations of " arche" route"amorces"

Ce qui sert d'appui, de soutien, ou de communication entre deux concepts, deux tendances ;
Où trébuche un instant le voyageur mortel,
N'est qu'une ARCHE du pont qui nous conduit au ciel.

21. Sur un grand nombre de sujets, il [Barrès] avait des enveloppes, des chemises jaunes, vertes ou rouges, contenant des brouillons, des AMORCES de développements, une page à demi rédigée...

Itinéraire, direction vers un point donné. Chercher, trouver la route; être sur la bonne, la mauvaise route.

Ligne de conduite, orientation donnée à l'existence visant à atteindre un but déterminé (projet, idéal). Chercher, continuer, ouvrir, trouver sa route; nos routes se croisent, se rencontrent, se séparent.
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