Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Gesundheitspolitik (as anthropomorphism)
English translation:
public health policymakers
Added to glossary by
Rowan Morrell
Sep 21, 2002 12:17
22 yrs ago
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German term
Gesundheitspolitik (strange use)
German to English
Marketing
Staff Magazine
"Und die Gesundheitspolitik muss sehen, dass XYZ einen wichtigen Beitrag in unserem solidarischen Gesundheitswesen leistet."
This is a medical product company discussing its marketing policy.
I'm baffled by "Gesundheitspolitik" here. I would have thought it meant "health policy", but it seems to be referring to a PERSON here. Can anyone shed light on this, please?
This is a medical product company discussing its marketing policy.
I'm baffled by "Gesundheitspolitik" here. I would have thought it meant "health policy", but it seems to be referring to a PERSON here. Can anyone shed light on this, please?
Proposed translations
(English)
1 +3 | more alternatives to writeway's good suggestions | Dan McCrosky (X) |
4 +5 | public health policy | rampinelli |
5 | Health Planning | lone (X) |
4 +1 | health care decision-makers | writeaway |
2 | our public health policy-makers must realize.. | Jonathan MacKerron |
Proposed translations
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more alternatives to writeway's good suggestions
I agree with writeaway and can only try to give you an American view on this.
Maybe it is quite acceptable in German and possibly in British, New Zealand, or Australian English, but this sort of anthropomorphism is rarely used in American English. For us simpleminded Yanks, "Public health policy" normally does act or is not acted upon in the same manner persons act or are acted upon.
"Public health policy" usually doesn't "see", it usually cannot be "convinced", and it usually doesn't "approve, list, accept, or enter".
"Public health policy" can, of course, "mean", it can "include", it can "encompass", and so on.
An American would be more likely to write your sentences with phrases like:
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" must see,
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" must be convinced, or
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" approve(s), list(s), accept(s), or enter(s)
HTH
Dan
Maybe it is quite acceptable in German and possibly in British, New Zealand, or Australian English, but this sort of anthropomorphism is rarely used in American English. For us simpleminded Yanks, "Public health policy" normally does act or is not acted upon in the same manner persons act or are acted upon.
"Public health policy" usually doesn't "see", it usually cannot be "convinced", and it usually doesn't "approve, list, accept, or enter".
"Public health policy" can, of course, "mean", it can "include", it can "encompass", and so on.
An American would be more likely to write your sentences with phrases like:
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" must see,
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" must be convinced, or
"public health officials" or "public health policymakers" or "the public health system" approve(s), list(s), accept(s), or enter(s)
HTH
Dan
Peer comment(s):
agree |
jerrie
: public health officials
23 mins
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agree |
Beate Lutzebaeck
: Also: health care politicians
9 hrs
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agree |
Ron Stelter
74 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Close call between this answer and writeaway's. But I like "policymakers". "Politicians", as Darien and Karlo suggested, isn't too bad either, but a politician is a policymaker and I feel that "policymaker" is a little closer to "Politik". (A health care politician would be a Gesundheitspolitiker.) And policymakers may include people other than actual politicians.<br><br>
It's very interesting that "Gesundheitspolitik" seems to be used as an anthropomorphism in German. It is certainly not an anthropomorphism any of the dictionaries recognise - but maybe they should. However, I am quite convinced that "policy" would <b>NEVER</b> be personalised in this way in any variety of English. Indeed, I agree not just 100%, but 200% with Dan's observations on this. It is simply <b>not natural</b>. To make it good English, something like "decision makers" or "policymakers" has to be used. It won't work otherwise.<br><br>
Thank you once again Dan, and commiserations writeaway - I'd definitely give you points as well if I could! But thanks also to the other contributors. It's been a rather interesting question, this one."
7 mins
Health Planning
Maybe you can use this instead of Health Policy!
Good luck!
Good luck!
+5
11 mins
public health policy
This is an example of an anthropomorphism.
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Ralf Lemster
1 min
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agree |
LegalTrans D
2 mins
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agree |
conny
25 mins
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agree |
Karlo Heppner
: Erst nach mehrmaligem Durchlesen habe ich überhaupt kapiert, wo dein Problem liegt, Rowan. Für uns ist das ganz normal, dass Gesundheitspolitik in diesem Fall personalisiert ist.
36 mins
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agree |
Nancy Arrowsmith
: und wenn sie nur menschlich wären...
39 mins
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+1
45 mins
health care decision-makers
my suggestion. I think you are right that the answer deals with a human element.
Effective Health Care is a bi-monthly bulletin for decision makers which
examines the effectiveness of a variety of health care interventions. ...
Description: A bi-monthly bulletin which examines the effectiveness of a variety of health care interventions...
ww.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/ehcb.htm - 8k -
.. or using economic evaluations in health care and will be popular with
health service professionals, health economists, and health care decision
makers. ...
www.york.ac.uk/inst/che/econeval.htm - 9k -
.. They are also the health care decision-makers for their families and the majority of managed care, Medicare, and adult Medicaid enrollees. ...
www.nationalpartnership.org/content.cfm?L1=5 - 12k
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Note added at 2002-09-21 13:06:22 (GMT)
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... The Issue Brief series is one of the activities underway by the LDI Health Policy Program to provide health care decision makers with the results of timely ...
www.upenn.edu/ldi/healthpol.html - 24k
Effective Health Care is a bi-monthly bulletin for decision makers which
examines the effectiveness of a variety of health care interventions. ...
Description: A bi-monthly bulletin which examines the effectiveness of a variety of health care interventions...
ww.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/ehcb.htm - 8k -
.. or using economic evaluations in health care and will be popular with
health service professionals, health economists, and health care decision
makers. ...
www.york.ac.uk/inst/che/econeval.htm - 9k -
.. They are also the health care decision-makers for their families and the majority of managed care, Medicare, and adult Medicaid enrollees. ...
www.nationalpartnership.org/content.cfm?L1=5 - 12k
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Note added at 2002-09-21 13:06:22 (GMT)
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... The Issue Brief series is one of the activities underway by the LDI Health Policy Program to provide health care decision makers with the results of timely ...
www.upenn.edu/ldi/healthpol.html - 24k
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Karlo Heppner
: Ist denke ich zu umfassend, wenn dann health care politicians.
5 mins
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I understand your point; health care policy makers was also a thought I had.
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agree |
Beate Lutzebaeck
: Excellent suggestion, also Karlo's health care politicians. Rowan, just think of Annette King et al. - that's what the German means .
9 hrs
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6 hrs
our public health policy-makers must realize..
oder so..
Discussion
So it's definitely a concrete entity of some sort.