Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

Torta di mele verdi al profumo di alloro e pepe garofanato

English translation:

Green apple pie fragranced with bay leaf and clove pepper

Added to glossary by Laura Bennett
Nov 28, 2011 12:10
12 yrs ago
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Italian term

Torta di mele verdi al profumo di alloro e pepe garofanato

Italian to English Other Cooking / Culinary
In un menù di dolci

Torta di mele verdi al “profumo” di alloro e pepe garofanato

Aiuto!....non ce la faccio più. Grazie a tutti.
Change log

Nov 28, 2011 12:11: Donatella Cifola changed "Language pair" from "English to Italian" to "Italian to English"

Nov 28, 2011 12:16: Russell Jones changed "Term asked" from "Torta di mele verdi al “profumo” di alloro e pepe garofanato " to "Torta di mele verdi al profumo di alloro e pepe garofanato "

Dec 12, 2011 08:45: Laura Bennett Created KOG entry

Discussion

Holly Nathan (X) Nov 28, 2011:
Yes Shera As somebody who likes her puddings, then the most important thing for me would be to understand if it was an apple cake or an apple pie. I live in an area of Italy which is famous for its apples and I regularly get the chance to try different "torta di mele" recipes....they have always been cakes, never pies. Maybe it would be worth your while checking if this is just on a menu and you have no recipe.
Shera Lyn Parpia Nov 28, 2011:
the recipe will tell you whether it is a pie or a cake!
Laura Bennett Nov 28, 2011:
allspice I must admit I thought allspice was something different but I'm happy to stand corrected if there are those who know otherwise.
Catherine Bolton Nov 28, 2011:
allspice Gisella is on track with allspice.

Proposed translations

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5 mins
Italian term (edited): Torta di mele verdi al “profumo” di alloro e pepe garofanato
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Green apple pie fragranced with bay leaf and clove pepper

It's a bit of a mouthful, in both senses!
Peer comment(s):

agree Chiara D'Andrea : or "with a hint of" bay leaf etc...
4 mins
Thanks Chiara!
agree Sara Maghini : Or "scented"!
5 mins
Thanks Sara!
agree Giuseppe Bellone : Isn't it better to hyphenate green-apple ? Or it might suggest that the pie itself is green! What do you think?
24 mins
Thanks Giuseppe, that's a good point.
agree Andrew Bramhall : Yes, 'with a hint of'
27 mins
Thanks Oliver!
agree Tom in London : if this is one of those pretentious menus, then a bit of pretentiousness in the translate would be appropriate.
34 mins
Thanks Tom!
neutral Catherine Bolton : Not "fragranced", and depending on your audience, it's called allspice and not clove pepper in the United States. Quick googling gives me 900 hits for "clove pepper" in the UK but 511K for allspice ...
38 mins
Thanks cbolton!
neutral Gisella Giarrusso : allspice is also very common in the UK
46 mins
Thanks Gisella - see above!
agree Lara Barnett : Really good translation but I really don't think it needs hyphenation, as suggested by Giuseppe Bellone - I knew instantly what it was saying.
1 hr
Thanks Lara!
agree Theodora OB : with a hint of...
1 hr
Thanks Theodora!
agree Dr Lofthouse
10 hrs
Thanks!
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11 mins

bay-Leaf-scented allspice green apple pie

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Note added at 22 mins (2011-11-28 12:33:30 GMT)
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http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimenta_dioica vedi il corrispettivo in inglese
Peer comment(s):

agree BdiL : Ojalá! I finally know what allspice is. Maurizio (I believe it should be "leaf", lower case.)
1 hr
thanks!
agree P.L.F. Persio
1 hr
thanks MissDutch!
agree Shera Lyn Parpia : allspice it is.
2 hrs
thanks Shera Lyn!
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3 hrs

Granny Smith apple pie with bay leaf and clove

The only green apples I have ever known are Granny Smith and clove is commonly used in the US.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Catherine Bolton : No, not clove, as the italian would have said "chiodi di garofano" instead of "pepe garofanato". I would venture to guess that GS apples is right, but without being sure green apples is safer.
7 mins
I though that clove was a type of pepper, I stand corrected.
neutral Holly Nathan (X) : I like the granny smith bit but why does everybody assume it is a pie?
7 mins
It could just as well be an apple tart. Yum
neutral Shera Lyn Parpia : and what about the Golden Delicious variety and the wonderful "Renette" in Italy?
39 mins
Those are not green apples
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7 hrs

Granny Smith apple pie with hints of bay leaf and allspice

This seems to be the best guess here.

You could also say "green apple pie" but the green apples are generally called Granny Smith. I believe that alloro is "bay leaf" (laurel) and "pepe garofanato" is allspice.

Good luck!
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7 hrs

Bay leaf and allspice-scented Granny Smith apple tart

Could be a tart and not a pie! You never know.

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Note added at 7 hrs (2011-11-28 19:39:28 GMT)
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Or it could even be a cake! Show us the recipe... it might, uh, prove to be useful. For research purposes and all. Yeah, that's it. ;-)
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