Jun 23, 2004 09:39
20 yrs ago
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German term
Eheberater (in diesem Satz)
German to English
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Eheberater sind solche, die einen beraten und ¨¹berzeugen, wie gl¨¹cklich man gewesen war, ehe man geheiratet hat.
I am wondering how to translated this sentence with the word "Eheberater" properly rendered to preserve the flavor of the German original. I would appreciate any help from any one, even just a guess.
I am wondering how to translated this sentence with the word "Eheberater" properly rendered to preserve the flavor of the German original. I would appreciate any help from any one, even just a guess.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +3 | Marriage Guidance Counsellor |
Rowan Morrell
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| 4 +5 | Marriage counsellor |
David Moore (X)
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| 4 +2 | marriage counsellor |
Elvira Stoianov
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| 3 | Divorce Preventer |
Jeff Steffin
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| 3 | marriage counsellor (plus...) |
Ken Cox
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| 2 +1 | Prenuptial advisor |
Michele Johnson
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Proposed translations
+3
41 mins
Rowan Morrell
New Zealand
New Zealand
Native in English
New Zealand
Committed to the Customer
Native in: English (Variant: New Zealand) 
Works in: French to English, German to English, Spanish to English
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Marriage Guidance Counsellor
Person who advises you to tarry before you marry!
You could try getting the humour across with a little rhyme. According to the Collins dictionary, an Eheberater is a marriage guidance counsellor - someone that tends to be consulted before you tie the knot. So something like the above could work.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2004-06-23 11:02:13 GMT)
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Antje has a point. Perhaps you could also say \"Someone who tells you why you should have tarried before you married!\"
You could try getting the humour across with a little rhyme. According to the Collins dictionary, an Eheberater is a marriage guidance counsellor - someone that tends to be consulted before you tie the knot. So something like the above could work.
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Note added at 1 hr 23 mins (2004-06-23 11:02:13 GMT)
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Antje has a point. Perhaps you could also say \"Someone who tells you why you should have tarried before you married!\"
Peer comment(s):
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Antje Harder
: An "Eheberater" offers counselling for married couples - a "prenuptial advisor" would be what you think about.
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Well, "marriage guidance counsellor" is what I found in the Collins dictionary, but I will admit that Wenjer's context is referring to someone counselling people already married.
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Jeremy Amos
: This is ok, a marriage guidance counsellor is precisely an Eheberator (in BE), i.e. post nuptial, and I like the rhyming of tarry and marry.
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Thanks Jeremy.
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Michele Johnson
: Fine approach Rowan- compensate for the lost pun. A homonym approach like marry/merry might also be appropriate.
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That's another thought - thanks Michele.
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Cilian O'Tuama
: the shortest sentence in English is "I am", and the longest is "I do" :-)
3 hrs
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ROTFL! Thanks Cilian.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "There have been quite a lot good ideas about how to render the original flavor into English. And it has been hard for me to grade this one. Tarry/marry or merry/marry and prenuptial advisor/marriage (guidance) counsellor are all very interesting. However, I decide to take Rowans "marriage guidance counsellor" and "should have tarried before married."
Many thanks to all of you, dear colleagues, for I've learned a lot from you!"
+2
4 mins
Elvira Stoianov
Luxembourg
Luxembourg
Luxembourg
Currently employed in-house
Native in: Romanian 
, Hungarian
Works in: German to Romanian, English to Romanian, Romanian to German, and 4 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
marriage counsellor
I on't see why it wouldn't fit
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
writeaway
: I had the same answer ready but double-checked before I sent it.
1 min
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Ellen Zittinger
: counselor, or advisor
6 hrs
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+5
4 mins
Marriage counsellor
I think it will be impossible; the "pun" sense has to come from the reamining wording. For example: "a marriage counsellor is someone who counsels you to remember how happy you were before marriage".
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-06-23 09:45:32 GMT)
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Drat these falming pismrints; that should of course read \"remaining\" wording....
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Note added at 6 mins (2004-06-23 09:45:32 GMT)
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Drat these falming pismrints; that should of course read \"remaining\" wording....
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: yes-can't see any pun either with Eheberater/Marriage Counsellor (Counselor across the pond)
2 mins
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Orla Ryan
4 mins
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Monika Leit
7 mins
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Rowan Morrell
: Sounds like something that could be in Wiley's Dictionary (cf. the "BC" comic).
13 mins
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Ken Cox
: the pun is untranslatable. you could also say 'a marriage counsellor is someone who gives you advice and makes you think you were a lot happier before you got married'
1 hr
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9 mins
Jeff Steffin
Native in English
Steffin Language Solutions
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, German to English, Portuguese to English, and 1 more.
Divorce Preventer
A divorce preventer is someone who helps to prevent divorce by advising agains marriage in the first place :-)
2 hrs
marriage counsellor (plus...)
One way to preserve the irony of the original (but not the pun) would be:
A marriage counsellor is someone who convinces you that getting married was a bad idea.
A marriage counsellor is someone who convinces you that getting married was a bad idea.
Peer comment(s):
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Gareth McMillan
: I certainly didn't need a third party to convince me of that!
25 mins
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+1
18 mins
Michele Johnson
Germany
Germany
Native in English
Germany
American engineer, Dip. Trans IOL, BDÜ
Native in: English
Works in: German to English, English
Related KudoZ points
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4
Prenuptial advisor
Well, can't we at least *attempt* to maintain some of the "Ehe-/ehe" pun? Something along the lines of:
A prenuptial advisor is someone who reminds you how happy you were pre-nuptial. (Or: before you got married).
I think this works well because there really are prenuptial advisors, I guess for the Donald Trumps of the world. Afraid simply "marriage counsellor" will not bring the humor across?
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Note added at 3 hrs 19 mins (2004-06-23 12:58:54 GMT)
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Rowan has inspired me, so let me just post this here. Would something involving marry/merry work? A marriage counselor is someone who reminds you how merry you were before you married? Might sound too dorky though.
A prenuptial advisor is someone who reminds you how happy you were pre-nuptial. (Or: before you got married).
I think this works well because there really are prenuptial advisors, I guess for the Donald Trumps of the world. Afraid simply "marriage counsellor" will not bring the humor across?
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Note added at 3 hrs 19 mins (2004-06-23 12:58:54 GMT)
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Rowan has inspired me, so let me just post this here. Would something involving marry/merry work? A marriage counselor is someone who reminds you how merry you were before you married? Might sound too dorky though.
Discussion
There must be some other good ideas. Wenn ich das in meinem Club erz�hlen w�rde...