Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Penúltimo
English translation:
penultimate or second to last
Aug 30, 2005 13:28
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Spanish term
Estudiante de Filolog
Native in: Spanish 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish
Penúltimo
Spanish to English
Other
Other
El equivalente es second to last, cierto? (No sé si es con o sin hyphens)
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Lucy Phillips
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Elegant precision - published writer
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Portuguese to English
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penultimate or second to last
Hi Liliana
I think in many cases 'penultimate' is fine, otherwise your choice of 'second to last' would also be my first choice - though I think the suggestions above are also feasible.
Briefly, I think I would use 'penultimate' to talk about a film or a book, for example - but (and others may not agree with this?) only if the filmmaker/author had died or stopped making films/writing books. That is to say, you could talk about Hitchcock's penultimate film but you would refer to Scorcese's 'second to last' film (and here's examples):
Alfred Hitchcock and the Making of a Film CultureHis return to Great Britain in Frenzy (1972), however, his penultimate film, was greeted with much fanfare and warm critical appraisal. ...
www.mysterynet.com/hitchcock/silet.shtml - 33k - 28 Aug 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
The IndependentsIn 1964, he graduated from New York University from the film program. ... Scorsese's second to last film was Kundun, a film about the Tibetan Daliah Lama. ...
www.godamongdirectors.com/index.shtml - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
'Second to last' would also be used to describe postitions on a league table in sports, or indeed someone's position in a race.
Hope this is useful.
I think in many cases 'penultimate' is fine, otherwise your choice of 'second to last' would also be my first choice - though I think the suggestions above are also feasible.
Briefly, I think I would use 'penultimate' to talk about a film or a book, for example - but (and others may not agree with this?) only if the filmmaker/author had died or stopped making films/writing books. That is to say, you could talk about Hitchcock's penultimate film but you would refer to Scorcese's 'second to last' film (and here's examples):
Alfred Hitchcock and the Making of a Film CultureHis return to Great Britain in Frenzy (1972), however, his penultimate film, was greeted with much fanfare and warm critical appraisal. ...
www.mysterynet.com/hitchcock/silet.shtml - 33k - 28 Aug 2005 - Cached - Similar pages
The IndependentsIn 1964, he graduated from New York University from the film program. ... Scorsese's second to last film was Kundun, a film about the Tibetan Daliah Lama. ...
www.godamongdirectors.com/index.shtml - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
'Second to last' would also be used to describe postitions on a league table in sports, or indeed someone's position in a race.
Hope this is useful.
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Marcelo González
: two good options :-)
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John Hughson (J.D., M.B.A. Finance)
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David Brown
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Michele Desart
: "penultimate" is also one of my options.
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María Teresa Taylor Oliver
: Interesting propositions... :o)
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JudyK
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Rachel Fell
: usually one of these two
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Michael Martin
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Laura Carrizo
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Claudia Palmier
: both of them are good.
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Muriel Vasconcellos (X)
: Yes, and I also agree with Rachel's comment directly to the Asker. It all depends on the context and register.
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Loretta (Kulaga) Morris
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Comment: "It seems to me this is the most accurate answer. Thanks a lot!"
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9 mins
Joaquim Siles-Borràs
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Spain
Professional Translator, PhD Philosophy
Native in: Catalan , Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, English to Catalan, Catalan to English, and 3 more.
the one before the last one
That's the term I normally hear and use
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ojinaga
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thanks ojinaga
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Arthur Allmendinger
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Thank you Arthur
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Anabel Martínez
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Merci Anabel
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Michele Desart
: It is one of many options
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Thank you Michele
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Elizabeth Castaldini
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Thanks er_transl
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Philippe Maillard
Brazil
Brazil
Native in English
Brazil
Accuracy first
Native in: French (Variants: Belgian, Standard-France) , English (Variant: UK)
Works in: English to French, Portuguese to French
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8
last but one
Harrap's
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Jornal de Poesia - Soares Feitosa
Last But One Canto. Variation nº 1, the Doubt. Translation by Luiz Angélico da
Costa*. for Artur Eduardo Benevides,. of long-course and ocean-sea captain ...
www.secrel.com.br/jpoesia/feito31ing.html - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
2000-07-10 last but one voyage (Pukshenga)
thm_1.jpg · thm_2.jpg · thm_3.jpg · thm_4.jpg · thm_5.jpg · thm_6.jpg · thm_7.jpg ·
thm_8.jpg · thm_9.jpg. 2000-07-10 last but one voyage (Pukshenga)
makarov.arkhangelsk.ru/photos/2000-07-10-last-but-one-voyage-web/ - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
Astropoetica: Last But One Depth, by Dan Mitrut
Last But One Depth. by Dan Mitrut. Learning silence by singing through the beak
of the Swan around the Pole Star. This is not enough. Putting buds ...
www.astropoetica.com/Winter04/last.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Stress
... the last vowel is the most clear, the last but one is weaker and the ...
in Polish it falls on the last but one syllable, in French it falls on the last ...
www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3230/stress.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
Learning English | BBC World Service
Note the useful expressions next but one, last but one. ... No, it's the last
but one. (ie there are two more people to be interviewed) ...
www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/... - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Consider a version of the more realistic decision model (last but ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Consider a version of the more realistic decision model (last but one slide in
lecture on decision. making) described by the following set of equations: ...
www.cs.bris.ac.uk/Teaching/Resources/COMS30127/labs/pooled.... - 28 Aug 2005 - Similar pages
Programming with Qt by Matthias Kalle Dalheimer Following are the ...
(34) The s of QPaintDevices in the last but one line is now typeset in roman.
... (132) In the second paragraph, last but one line: "then" has been removed. ...
www.oreilly.com/catalog/prowqt/errata/prowqt.799 - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Note added at 12 mins (2005-08-30 13:41:06 GMT)
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Jornal de Poesia - Soares Feitosa
Last But One Canto. Variation nº 1, the Doubt. Translation by Luiz Angélico da
Costa*. for Artur Eduardo Benevides,. of long-course and ocean-sea captain ...
www.secrel.com.br/jpoesia/feito31ing.html - 59k - Cached - Similar pages
2000-07-10 last but one voyage (Pukshenga)
thm_1.jpg · thm_2.jpg · thm_3.jpg · thm_4.jpg · thm_5.jpg · thm_6.jpg · thm_7.jpg ·
thm_8.jpg · thm_9.jpg. 2000-07-10 last but one voyage (Pukshenga)
makarov.arkhangelsk.ru/photos/2000-07-10-last-but-one-voyage-web/ - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
Astropoetica: Last But One Depth, by Dan Mitrut
Last But One Depth. by Dan Mitrut. Learning silence by singing through the beak
of the Swan around the Pole Star. This is not enough. Putting buds ...
www.astropoetica.com/Winter04/last.html - 4k - Cached - Similar pages
Stress
... the last vowel is the most clear, the last but one is weaker and the ...
in Polish it falls on the last but one syllable, in French it falls on the last ...
www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Bookstore/3230/stress.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages
Learning English | BBC World Service
Note the useful expressions next but one, last but one. ... No, it's the last
but one. (ie there are two more people to be interviewed) ...
www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/learnit/... - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
[PDF] Consider a version of the more realistic decision model (last but ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Consider a version of the more realistic decision model (last but one slide in
lecture on decision. making) described by the following set of equations: ...
www.cs.bris.ac.uk/Teaching/Resources/COMS30127/labs/pooled.... - 28 Aug 2005 - Similar pages
Programming with Qt by Matthias Kalle Dalheimer Following are the ...
(34) The s of QPaintDevices in the last but one line is now typeset in roman.
... (132) In the second paragraph, last but one line: "then" has been removed. ...
www.oreilly.com/catalog/prowqt/errata/prowqt.799 - 8k - Cached - Similar pages
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Rosario Villaescusa
: sorry!!!, I didn't see your answer :>)
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no problem ! Often happens ! Thank you !
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Rachel Fell
: yes, sometimes
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George Rabel
Native in Spanish
TRANSLATIONS THAT READ LIKE ORIGINALS
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
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next-to-last
It is often used as a hypjenated expression, and without the article "the".
Definition of next-to-last - WordReference.com Dictionarynext-to-last Definition from dictionary. ... Look up "next-to-last" at Merriam-Webster · Look up "next-to-last" at dictionary.com ...
www.wordreference.com/definition/next-to-last - 8k -
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Definitions of "next-to-last" on the Web:
penultimate: next to the last; "the author inadvertently reveals the murderer in the penultimate chapter"; "the figures in the next-to-last column"
junior(a): used of the third or next to final year in United States high school or college; "the junior class"; "a third-year student"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Definition of next-to-last - WordReference.com Dictionarynext-to-last Definition from dictionary. ... Look up "next-to-last" at Merriam-Webster · Look up "next-to-last" at dictionary.com ...
www.wordreference.com/definition/next-to-last - 8k -
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Definitions of "next-to-last" on the Web:
penultimate: next to the last; "the author inadvertently reveals the murderer in the penultimate chapter"; "the figures in the next-to-last column"
junior(a): used of the third or next to final year in United States high school or college; "the junior class"; "a third-year student"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
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María Teresa Taylor Oliver
: Así es que lo he visto más a menudo... Hola, George.
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Muchas gracias mariteri. Estaba de vacas, mas o menos
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Marina Soldati
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Muchas gracias, Marina.
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Margaret Schroeder
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Muchas gracias, GW
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Michele Fauble
: I would normally say 'the next to the last'.
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Rosario Villaescusa
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Spain
Accurate European Spanish on time.
Native in: Spanish
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Spanish term (edited):
Pen�ltimo
the last but one
another option
3 hrs
Margaret Schroeder
Mexico
Mexico
Native in English
Specializes in field
Mexico
The right words in the right place.
Native in: English (Variants: US, Canadian) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English
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43
Spanish term (edited):
Pen�ltimo
second-last, next-to-last
Aquí lo acostumbramos decirlo en mi tierra.
http://tinyurl.com/c3naa
http://tinyurl.com/7u3ku
En cambio, "next-to-last" es más usado en otras partes, como, al parecer, los EEUU.
http://tinyurl.com/bl6pr
http://tinyurl.com/c3naa
http://tinyurl.com/7u3ku
En cambio, "next-to-last" es más usado en otras partes, como, al parecer, los EEUU.
http://tinyurl.com/bl6pr
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